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dieseltrctr
Join Date: Aug 2005
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2005-08-24          115383


Just seein' if anyone uses Land Pride implements. I am trying to work into the business of doing the finish grade on new construction. I will also be doing sodding and seeding. Just seeing what kind of luck folks have had with Land Pride tillers, pulverizers and seeders, Thanks!



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Join Date: Feb 2005
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2005-08-24          115391


I've got a LandPride RTA1050 tiller that makes it look easy. It's a Cat 1, 6 tine, slip-clutch, 50 inch width, weighing in at 385 pounds according to the manual. It is a unit that I will probably not use in in fullest capactiy until later (when away from the "big smoke"). It is being used with a Case IH DX24E (which is identical to the NH TZ24DA). The weekend before last, I spent about 4-5 hours preparing about 1-1/2 acres for native grass seed. The till depth was about 4 inches. The "soil" was compacted sandy stuff. After passing through with the tiller, it seemed to be quite powdery with few clumps. I am still quite impressed with the results. And the grass seed has been sown; now just waiting for the "terrestrial fur" to grow. I also have to till in some organic material in the areas where sod will be placed, about 3000 sq. ft., but that will be in several weeks time.

There are some new pictures including the tiller in action, but will have to get them posted soon. ....


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2005-08-24          115392


I have a Land Pride landscape rake and a Woods box scraper for my BX 2230. I love them both. I have been cleaning and getting about 1 acre ready for seeding and both have their strengths. I 'spose if I had to pick just one, I would go with the landscape rake. It contours, moves dirt from high spots to low spots, and when on an angle it will wind row rocks nicely for easy scoop up. I am amazed at what it will do and how nicely the ground looks like after its worked. I have heavy clay here and after I have worked the soil a few times with the rake, I will not have to till it but just plant it. I would not have guessed it would work up clay soil to such nice consistency.

In another post, someone said if you flip the landscape rake over and pull it on the backside of the curved teeth, it will work nicely to work in the grass seed without bunching it or burying it too deep.

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2005-08-25          115393


There are lots of good impliments around, but because of a good dealer and good performance form the product I'm pretty much a Land Pride person. I don't have experience with anywhere near all of there equipment, but so far with a tiller, landscape rake, box scraper, and rear mount finish mower, I've not been dissapointed.
Best of luck. Frank. ....


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Murf
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2005-08-25          115397


I do a lot of finish grading, seeding & sodding. I and I mean a LOT of it, I build golf courses....

I would no more consider trying to do much in the way of final grading with a CUT than I would try to cut down a tree with an box cutter. It can be done, but why waste all that time and effort?

Stick with what the CUT is good at, the final seedbed preparation and the seeding itself and leave the earth moving for a small trim dozer.

Land Pride implements though are certainly top-drawer stuff.

Best of luck. ....


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yooperpete
Join Date: Jan 2004
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2005-08-25          115398


Most of the professionals use LandPride equipment. It is good stuff. I have a homemade pulverizer fashioned after the LandPride but with a different screen at the back. It and other pulverizer work OK but if you are doing residential go with a LandPride power rake rather than the pulverizer. It costs lots more money but does a better job.

I'd also suggest that you get a good hyro-seeder.

Most of the guys in our area use the power rake on a 30-45 HP CUT. Someone with a dozer will establish rough grade. ....


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2005-08-25          115399


I have a Land Pride rear blade on my 45 HP tractor and I have nothing but good things to say about it. It is a 7 ft blade and had done what I want every time I ask it to. ....


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bvance
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2005-08-25          115466


I didn't catch in Dieseltractor's original post that he was consideriing going into the professional landscaping and gave him my thots from a homeowners view. My bad!

When I read Murf's post about how he would not recommend a CUT, I thought where is getting off telling this poor homeowner to go out and invest all this money just for his lawn....and I was shocked at Murf's opinion because I always value his posts and advice. But luckily I went back and read Diesel's post and once again my faith in Murf was re-established!

Thanks, Murf for completly reading the post and for your sage advice again. I will still stick with my convictions that these tools and my lowly little BX2230 will do these things nicely for a homeowner with just an acre or two....certainly takes longer but they do work and will try to keep my advice where it belongs...in my own backyard! ....


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Murf
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2005-08-26          115473


BVance, thank you for the very kind words.

You are exactly right, as a homeowners 'recreational' machine they are right up there near, if not at the top, of the list of big power toys, errr, tools, I mean TOOLS. LOL.

In certian situations, my own for instance, they also make exceptional 'commercial' machines.

However, like the Swiss Army Knife they are, they can do lot of things, but they are hardly the best choice for some of them.

In a commerical situation, speed and performance are critical. In most cases the biggest share of the expense goes to labour, and saving it, or wasting it, can make or break a job or even a business very quickly.

When time is of no consequence in the equation it changes all that.

BTW, there is NOTHING lowly about a BX2230, they are very solid little machines, capable of doing a great amount of work. A fellow near me makes a pretty good living with a BX23 TLB, he installs head-stones and stuff like that. He can get it into places nothing else can, and barely disturbs anything doing it.

Best of luck. ....


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earthwrks
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2005-08-26          115485


I have a Land Pride landscape rake. It's ok, but I haven't used it since I got a power box rake. A box scraper works well for final grades too---dozers do the rough and anything from 30hp and up CUTs and full-size loader/landscapers like a Case do the rest. I have a New Holland TC33D and it is perfect for doing final grades and prep for sod. Sometimes I get calls for doing onnly final-grade prep for sod and make $300 in about an hour just loosening up the soil so it can be raked by hand by the homeowner.

If you don't have a skid steer get a loader on your CUT though, makes the job much easier. As far as name-brand implements, since I use mine on a regular commercial basis I use the relatively inexpensive brands like KK rotary cutters, and box scrapers because even a bunch of 4x4's tied together (ha ha) will drag dirt so why spend good money on something that is going to do the same job but cost more? As far as the prime-mover like a tractor or skid steer, don't skimp here. Reliability and durability are key. And if you don't have a good dump truck and trailer get yourself a good 10-yard dump trailer to tote the equipment around with a 3/4 ton diesel (minimum)--don't even mess with gas trucks. ....


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dieseltrctr
Join Date: Aug 2005
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2005-08-27          115521


Thanks for all the excellent feedback. I read the books on the Land Pride power rake and was strongly considering taking one for a spin in the dirt behind my local dealers shop. I am not new at this, but am new to acquiring my own equipment. I put many lawns in for the farmer/landscaper I used to work for. Back then I was frustrated at the size of the tractors we had to use...as in BIG! I am going to run a New Holland TC45. I am pretty well sold on Land Pride implements, but wanted to hear it from the folks that already have 'em behind them.Thanks Again :-) ....


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earthwrks
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2005-08-27          115527


From my experience doing commercial work, anything bigger than a TCC33D like the the 45 is just too big to manuever quickly and nimbly in typical tract-home/residential setting---if that's what you're doing--but that's just my opinion.

As far as LandPride power rakes, you might want to consider other brands too. I bought my Piranha power rake from a rental yard for $4800 with less than 50 hours on it. New was $7800. ....


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2005-08-28          115548


As you can see in my profile, just about all of my implements are Land Pride. They are ALL very solidly built and as good or better than any of the top rated brands out there. The issue you may want to look at is the cost. Unfortunately, Land Pride equipment costs right up there with and sometimes even more than Deere and other expensive brands. If you use the equipment only occasionally; the cost in my opinion just cannot be justified. On the other hand, if you use it commercially; Land Pride is about the best built you can buy in my opinion. ....


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2005-08-28          115563


I guess I don't see the connection of using top quality implements commerically when it comes to something like brushhogs and other "disposable" implements like a box rake.
For example and friend and competitor and I do final grades with nearly identical machines only he uses a Ford/New Holland box scraper. I use a King Kutter. Mine cuts and fuills just as well as his. My side plates are just as worn out as his are.
If he paid double what I paid for a piece of equipment to do the same job and it has the same life, he loses twice the money for the same job. Same thing applies to when I used to buy all DeWalt, and other name brand power tools. After three break-ins in 3 years totalling more than $40,000 in stolen tools and equipment I started seeing a pattern. When I repalced some of the name brand tools with Ryobi and others---they wouldn't steal them. So now nearly all my tools are Ryobi--or at least the ones I use a on job away from from home. And Ryobi isn't that bad a of tool either but apparently thieves don't know that. ....


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Murf
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2005-08-29          115597


"I guess I don't see the connection of using top quality implements commerically when it comes to something like brushhogs and other "disposable" implements like a box rake."

Maybe it's because quality products like Land Pride aren't "disposable".

Just as an example of the difference;

- a 72" KK box blade weighs about 500 pounds and has manual scarifiers and a fixed rear cutting edge.

- a Land Pride or other top quality box blade typically weighs 1,000 pounds, has hydraulic scarifiers (no leaving the seat to engage/disengage them) and a pivoting rear cutting edge which can also be locked in place for better down pressure or limiting forward cuts.

Quality stuff is also usually made with replaceable wear parts. Mine has wear bars under the side plates so the sides don't wear at all. I have a few pieces that are 20+ years old and have been used commercially from day one, and all of them are still working just fine.

Best of luck. ....


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dieseltrctr
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2005-09-13          116330


I tend to agree with keepin it cheap on the simple implements. I had a King Kutter box scraper that I bought at Orschelns Farm Store and it worked just fine. Let me get a little more specific...has anyone run a OS15 Land Pride overseeder behind a NH TC33D? I pulled one behind a JD 4700 at work for a week doing overseeding, but was curious how well a 33 would handle it....thanks for the excellent feedback. ....


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2011-01-07          176266


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2011-01-07          176267


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2011-01-07          176274


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