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 | bmlekki
Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 185 Upstate, NY 
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2004-07-19 91302
35 Gallon Poly
Just wondering what you guys think of this tank for diesel.
Also does any one know what the minimum amount fuel an oil company will deliver off-road fuel?
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 | yooperpete
Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1413 Northern Michigan 
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2004-07-19 91304
I would think that you need a container that has a vented cap. A container made for hauling water would not have this nor the pressure rating for hauling fuel. I'm sure, if handled correctly you could get by. I'd hate to see you burn down your building or destroy some equipment because something weird happened. Northern Tool & Hydraulics sells some tanks that are rated for fuel. TSC sells the aluminum treatplate style made by DeeZee. They are nice but pricey. Handpumpes, etc. are available from both places. TSC also sells a vent cap for $31.19 (08-28212) that fits tanks with 2"NPT female threads.
Most companies that deliver fuel charge by the mile for delivery. The more you purchase at a time the better. If you can haul it "to and from" it would be better. Most states have laws regulating hauling in auxillary fuel tanks, the breaking point limit may vary from state to state. Also don't know if you need some sort of registration to buy off-road tax exempt fuel. ....
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 | AnnBrush
Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 463 Troy OH
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2004-07-19 91307
You might be better off using a 55 gallon steel drum and filling it with 35 gal. They are cheaper, all have the standard 2" bung which most fuel pumps carry fittings for, and they all have a secondary 3/4 NPT fitting which can be used to fit a vent cap (opposite the 2" bung on a 55 gal tighthead). Most of the time you can pick up 55 gal drums for free if you know someone with a business that uses them. My company buys pure vitamin E oil in them and I have 2 of those now filled with off road diesel. Depending on where you live most states do not require registration to buy dyed diesel, just don't get caught with it in your pickup. Good luck. ....
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 | DRankin
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 5116 Northern Nevada 
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2004-07-20 91437
The tanks you found have materials spec'd for water storage. The tank material itself may not be a problem but there is also PVC and rubber involved in the bulkhead fitting.
You will be much happier with a tank designed to store and dispense fuel. ....
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| bmlekki
Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 185 Upstate, NY
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2004-07-20 91440
DRankin, Thanks!
I liked the idea of using a plactic drum. I found one that can hold diesel. I was wonder if there would be any problems with connecting a pressure reg. and pressurize the drum to a low 5-10 psi and connect it to a fuel hose and valve. ....
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| DRankin
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 5116 Northern Nevada
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2004-07-20 91448
Sounds like a Murf question. ....
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 | Murf
Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7249 Toronto Area, Ontario, Canada
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2004-07-20 91457
You rang.
I regularly pressurize them to more than 10 psi, sometimes on purpose, usually not.
I have discovered that they look pretty funny at 35 psi.
Note to self: When using the air regulator to 'wife-proof' tire filling, reset it before using it to 'pump' liquids again.
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| Murf
Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7249 Toronto Area, Ontario, Canada
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2004-07-20 91458
A word of caution here though after noting that, like myself, you live in an area where the temperature can be quite low.
The plastic drums can become brittle at low temperatures.
If you use much fuel in the winter either store the drum in a heated area, as I do, or have an alternate method of fueling up when it's very cold.
If you have a long enough hose so that you do not have to work under the FEL, you can just lift the drum with the FEL and let gravity do it's thing.
Best of luck. ....
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| bmlekki
Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 185 Upstate, NY
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2004-07-20 91463
Thanks Murf,
I was thinking of keeping inside, so that should work well. I just have to figure out if I should try to fill it with off-road, or the stuff at the pump for $1.79 gal.
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| Murf
Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7249 Toronto Area, Ontario, Canada
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2004-07-20 91466
For what it's worth, in most jurisdictions if you keep your receipts and file a form at the end of the year with the tax people they will refund the 'road tax' on the purchases.
If you buy 'regular' diesel and then need to use some in a road vehicle you don't have to worry about getting caught with coloured fuel in your vehicle.
If you do use some in your vehicle, and then 'accidentally' submit the receipt and get the taxes back you would of course not accept the refund.
Ohhhhh, that was funny one, not accept the refund!!!
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 | Billy
Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 975 Southeast Oklahoma 
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2004-07-20 91467
Another word of caution if storing in a heated building. You might want to check with local codes/laws and your insurance company. Any flammable liquid is dangerous enough and especially when stored improperly.
The off-road versus taxed is strictly up to you. If you feel you don't pay your fair share of taxes, then buy the taxed ;) ....
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| Murf
Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7249 Toronto Area, Ontario, Canada
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2004-07-20 91470
A very good point Billy, mine is stored in a sealed drum at the opposite end of the shop from the furnace, and where I do my welding, etc., and I check it regularly for any signs of leakage, spillage or fumes.
Diesel fumes, especially in still air like indoors, can be a real threat, they are heavier than air and will creep along the floor. If they build up to a concentration that will support combustion and there is a source of ignition say good-bye to that building.
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