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 02-25-2002, 15:15 Post: 35871
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Hi there

I have been offered a Honda Compact tractor, 22HP, hydro trans, FEL, cab, MMM and collector, two sets of tyres turf and ag. Does anyone know anything about these machines, are they any good or should I run a mile? It is a very good price otherwise I wouldn't consider it. I don't have any other details as the dealer is going to get back to me.

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 02-26-2002, 06:52 Post: 35881
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There is some info in the archives searching on HONDA. The main problem seems to be lack of manufacturer support in N.A. and related parts problems. I don't know if they had standard CAT I 3ph's or not, but lack of a standard hitch would be a limitation.






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 02-26-2002, 06:59 Post: 35882
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I found some info on this site:
http://www.sledmaine.net/ whittemoresons/honda/hodietra.htm. I am not sure if it is the same model but I believe they only made one model. My main concern is spares and service items. I will have to have a word with the dealer about that. The spec doesn't look bad but I was hoping that someone might have experience of one.

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 02-26-2002, 23:26 Post: 35900
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Andy, I remember when those came out, and have been rummaging through my old sales literature collection trying to find a brochure....so far, no luck. I did drive those Hondas around at the dealer back when they were new. A local hardware store carried them, but I don't think they ever sold many. After a few years the dealership folded. So the Honda compact is a odd duck. You would certainly have the only one on the block!
I think there were two sizes, one with a very small category 0 hitch and the larger size might have been the more commonly used category 1
I recall being favorably impressed by the very quiet engine which gave off almost no diesel smoke and by a nifty & unique quad-wheel steering system.
The entire tractor was more lightly built than most compacts of that HP, but seemed sturdy enough to hold up. In particular I remember that the tires were smaller than I would have expected in a tractor that size....making it more of a mowing tractor than a plowing tractor.
As for parts and such, it isn't unusual for a tractor to go for decades without needing any parts other than filters, hoses, and belts. And Honda seems to build good tools. I'd hope that the low number of sales and questionable parts suppy would make combine to make the price very attractive.
If you are the kind of person who enjoys doing your own maintenance and minor repairs then why not own something unique? The downside would be that resale could be low, but then a low purchase price would make that OK.






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 02-27-2002, 04:00 Post: 35901
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Hi Roger

Thanks for the info. I have since found out that it has 2,336 hours on it which makes me think it is not such a good deal. The price is 4,500 (about US$6,750) plus VAT at 17.5% so not a lot of money but I think I would rather spend a bit more and get something with less hours and a better pedigree.

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 02-27-2002, 06:15 Post: 35905
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Well, you'll get no argument from me with that philosophy.
A question often asked is "How long do they last?". From what I've seen in the last 25 years, it is beginning to look as though one compact tractor - regularly maintained - will last a person most of his working life. Because of this durability, and because design changes have been slow in the tractor world, then tractor value doesn't change much either. It isn't unusual for a used one to be worth exactly what it cost new a couple of decades later.
Given all the above, it seems reasonable to buy as good as one can afford instead of looking for a bargain.






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 02-27-2002, 07:28 Post: 35907
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Andy: The hours are around the time some tractors start needing a bit of work--injectors, hydraulics pumps and clutches sometimes need work, depending on tractor and usage. The idea of spending a bit more and on a tractor that had available parts and service probably is good. I did want to say that most comments here came from North American experience. Since you quoted prices in pounds, you're probably outside N.A., and support for Honda compacts may be different.

What I heard is that Honda stopped importing compacts to N.A.. They may be more of a going concern elsewhere. Roger probably knows the answer. He is a wealth of information and experience as always.






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 02-27-2002, 08:10 Post: 35909
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Tom

I thought that the most hours I should consider would be about 800 for the very reasons you mention. Although I won't be putting a lot of hours on in a year it will have to last me for quite some time.

I think that Honda did the same over here as there are very few of them about, it looks like it was only on the market for a very short time. I have been looking for a Kubota mainly but there are not many dealers in the area so it means dealing with one several hundred miles away.

You're right about location, I am in the UK in the Highlands of Scotland not far from Loch Ness.

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 02-27-2002, 08:31 Post: 35913
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Andy, The only comment I can remember reading about the Honda tractor was that it was a good machine but that the front-end loader was a real pain to take off and on. Bye the bye, what clan do you hail from? My mother was Rankin/McLean. That either makes me scotch from the knees down or the neck up. I think I prefer the latter as being German from the neck up can sometimes be detrimental to ones health.






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 02-27-2002, 08:43 Post: 35915
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Mark

We are not native Scots. We moved up here in 1994 to get away from the city life. We are originally from a city in Yorkshire. Great up here until you want to buy anything out of the ordinary then it can be a real pain.

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