Help with reattaching FEL: New Holland Tractor Review  -- New Holland Tractors Discussion Forum and Review Help with reattaching FEL: New Holland Tractor Review -- New Holland Tractors Discussion Forum

  parts   |   manuals   |   discussion   |   photos   |   podcast   |   reviews   |   specs   |   dealers   |   classifieds   |   contact   |   faq   |   myProfile   |   home          Login Now | Sign Up


FAQ:   What is a tractor?

Forum Index

Kubota Tractors
  Kubota News
  Kubota Price
  Kubota Review
John Deere Tractors
  John Deere News
  John Deere Price
  John Deere Review
New Holland Tractors
  New Holland Tractor Price
  New Holland Tractor Revie
Other Tractor Brands
  Articulated Tractors
  Belarus
  Bobcat Tractors
  Case
  Cub Cadet
  Hinomoto
  Kioti Tractor
  Long
  Massey Ferguson
  Mitsubishi
  Other Tractor Brands
  Other Tractor News
  Shibaura
  Yanmar Tractors
Lawn and Garden Tractors
  Craftsman
  Cub Cadet Garden
  John Deere Garden
  Kubota Lawn Garden
  Other Garden Tractors
  Simplicity
  Toro Wheelhorse
  Ventrac Lawn Tractors
Antique Tractors
  Allis Chalmers
  Case David Brown
  Farmall IHC
  Ford
  Ford 9N 2N 8N
  Fordson
  Harry Ferguson
  John Deere Older
  Massey-Harris Ferguson
  Minneapolis Moline
  Oliver Cletrac Cockshutt
  Restoration
  Tractor Pulling
Tractor Attachments Implements 3ph
  Back Hoe
  Field Mowers Brush Cutter
  Grooming Mowers Finish Mo
  Loaders
  Snowblowers / Snow Plows
  Tillers and Ploughs
  Tractor Implements
  Trenchers
  Wood Chippers 3PH
Tractor Maintenance
  Diesel Fuel Lubrication E
  Tractor Engine Repair Reb
  Tractor Tires
Utility ATV
  All Terrain Vehicles
  John Deere Gator
  Mule Utility Vehicles
General Tractor
  Farming Ranching Agricult
  Photo Contest
  Size Tractor Needed
  Tractor Projects
  Tractor Safety
  Welding
Chinese Tractors
  Jinma Farmpro Agracat
  NorTrac Tractors
  Other Chinese Tractors
Cars
  All Brands
  Audi VW
  BMW
  Car Tires and Maintenance
  Chrysler
  Exotic, Sports, Racing
  Ford Cars
  General Motors
  Honda
  Hyundai
  Mercedes
  News
  Nissan
  Subaru
  SUV and Trucks
  Toyota Cars
Trucks Trailers
  Chevy Pickup Trucks
  Dodge Pickup Trucks
  Ford Pickup Trucks
  Toyota Pickup Trucks
  Chevy Pickup Trucks
  Dodge Pickup Trucks
  Ford Pickup Trucks
  Toyota Pickup Trucks
Home Building
  Alternate Electric Energy
  Barns Pole Barns
  Buying Ranch Farm Acreage
  Carpentry
  Contractors
  Electric
  Excavation
  Moldings Finish Trim
  Other Home Building
  Pellet Stoves
  Plumbing
  Wood Stoves
Tools
  Electirc Power Tools
  Gas Power Tools
  Generators
  Shop Tools
  Techniques Howto
Landscape
  Flowers Shrubs Garden
  Golf Course Maintenance
  Irrigation Systems
  Landscape Design
  Landscape Lighting
  Landscape Maintenance
  Lawn, Turf, and Grass
  Vegetable Gardening
Construction
  Caterpillar
  Komatsu
  Wheel Loaders
Current Events Health Happiness
  Current Events
  Dogs and other Pets
  Electronics And Computers
  Food
  Health
  Just For Fun Off Topic
  Movies Music Games
  Personal Finance Investme
  Sports Outdoors
Tractorpoint Site
  Member Photos
  Site Members
  Website Operations Howto


New As Posted | Active Subjects



Click to Post a New Message!

Discussion Boards > Active Subjects > Messages as Posted > New Holland Tractor Review Forum

Page [ 1 ] |
Reply | Pop Up Window Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo
 05-19-2003, 22:11 Post: 55135
CarltonInVA



Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Spotsylvania, Virginia
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1
 Help with reattaching FEL

I have owned a TC33D with 7308 FEL for about two months now. I decided to take the FEL off this weekend just for the experience. Now I'm trying to reattach it and am having a problem. I can't attach one of the hydrolic connectors. I was able to attach all of them except for one (the red one).

Also, just to be clear, when I was detaching the FEL, I did relieve the hydro pressure after turning off the tractor and before disconnecting the hydro connections. I did this by moving the joystick through all of it's positions.

Has anyone else experienced this? Any advice would be appreciated!

Thanks,
Carlton






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 05-19-2003, 23:16 Post: 55140
DRankin



View my Photos

View my Photos  Pics
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Northern Nevada
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 5105
 Help with reattaching FEL

Don't have a blue tractor, but I have an Orange and a Green one.

I know this: If I take off the backhoe when it is cool and try to put it back on when it is warm, I have exactly the problem you describe.

You need to relieve the pressure in the hydraulic lines and figure out a way to depress the little check valves inside the quick connect fittings without damaging the O rings.

With the male connectors you can push real hard against a metal surface like the loader bucket. With the female fittings you may have to use a flat tipped punch and push against a hard surface.

That should solve the problem. Sometimes you only get a couple drops out but it is enough to get the couplers together






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 05-20-2003, 05:53 Post: 55149
TomG

TP Contributor

Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Upper Ottawa Valley
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 5406
 Help with reattaching FEL

The solution is likely as MarkH says. Another explanation that would produce the same result is if the curl pressure was relieved before the lift. Unless the bucket is flat, relieving the lift may reload the curl circuit. I usually put the lift in float and then relieve the curl pressure.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 05-20-2003, 12:35 Post: 55182
Murf



View my Photos

View my Photos  Pics
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Toronto Area, Ontario, Canada
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 7044

2
Filter by User
 Help with reattaching FEL

An easier (safer?) way to unload a hydraulic circuit is to let the system itself take the excess fluid.

Sound confusing, here it is in crayon.

If the hose from the top of the 'bucket curl' cylinder is pressurized (the usual culprit because there is weight sitting on it) then connect the hose from the lower end of that cylinder to the valve in it's proper location and move the valve just slightly as if you were trying to curl the bucket up (i.e. pressurize this side a bit). It may take a little practice, but you can move the cylinder just a fraction of an inch and take the weight off that line by pressurizing the other side and forcing it up. This will allow the other side to be connected easily since it not under any pressure.

Best of luck.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 05-20-2003, 13:05 Post: 55184
Billy

TP Contributor

View my Photos

View my Photos  Pics
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Southeast Oklahoma
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 975
 Help with reattaching FEL

Now Murf, it's not suppose to be that simple. It's not the way I do it, so it has to be wrong.

Just kiddin, sounds pretty simple. Myself, I just press the end of the culprit hose against the tractor frame.

Besides, once I bend over to hook the hoses up, I need to conserve every breathe Wink yeah right

Billy






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 05-20-2003, 16:15 Post: 55206
Murf



View my Photos

View my Photos  Pics
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Toronto Area, Ontario, Canada
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 7044

2
Filter by User
 Help with reattaching FEL

There is another simple solution, but it takes a little planning ahead.

Before you disconnect the 'bucket curl' circuit shut the machine down for a minute and cycle that portion of the control valve, then disconnect that circuit. By allowing the loader to do any settling with the lines connect any fluid that needs to move does so and hopefully neither line will be pressurized when you go to put it back on.

A friend of mine uses a big block of firewood under the cross brace rather than the bucket to rest the loader on, swears it keeps the lines easy to re-connect.

I can relate to the breath thing too, even though I'm not that old last years health problems made it a fact of life. Thank goodness for A/C & HEPA air filters in cabs too...

Best of luck.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 05-30-2003, 21:59 Post: 56061
cdcole



Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Saukville, WI
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 66

2
Filter by User
 Help with reattaching FEL

This happened to me once - line was under pressure because I forgot to flaten bucket before disconnecting. So...I connected the lift cylinders - lifted the bucket under power - rested bracket behind bucket on chunk of wood - shut it off - then connected it fine without a problem. Trust me without doing this - the Hulk could not have connected the lines - I could not budge the ball - not even a micron.

Try to see why the hose is pressurized - usually you can readlily deduce why the pressure is there and if you moved the valves around before disconnecting - it is probably gravity that is getting you. Take the weight off the effected portion as I described above.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 05-30-2003, 23:58 Post: 56065
thetool1
2003-05-30 00:00:00
Post: 56065
 Help with reattaching FEL

Try lowering your pto to the lowest level possible- this will take some pressure off of the hydrolics and allow for easy replacement of hose.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 05-31-2003, 18:25 Post: 56095
stevenc



Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: North Carolina
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 190
 Help with reattaching FEL

try loosning the coupler on the red hose of the loader side to relieve the pressure,If that dosent work,you have a bad coupler,,this is a easy fix,,just get a new one!(coupler that is!)






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 05-31-2003, 21:38 Post: 56102
cdcole



Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Saukville, WI
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 66

2
Filter by User
 Help with reattaching FEL

I am confident that the situation is unrelated to a mechanical problem - there is probably simply a line under pressure when you are unable to reconnect the quick disconnect.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
Reply | Pop Up Window Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo


Page [ 1 ] |

Discussion Boards > Active Subjects > Messages as Posted > New Holland Tractor Review Forum

Thread 55135 Filter by Poster:
Billy 1 | CarltonInVA 1 | cdcole 2 | DRankin 1 | Murf 2 | stevenc 1 | thetool1 1 | TomG 1 |

 (advanced search)

Picture of the Day
bobhope

Lawn, Turf, and Grass - The Plus and Minus of Ignoring Your Lawn
The Plus and Minus of Ignoring Your Lawn


Unanswered Questions

Shibaura SD2203 rear axle oil
Mitsubishi MX55
Gator HPX ignition module
SL 1643
Removing LHS rear wheel beari
Gear Grinding 1200A - primary
Replacing a friction diskwashe
Bolens k1502 mitsubishi K3 ove


Active Subjects

Big country 4x2 utility vehicl
Operation
lift cylinder for 3pt hitch wo
Still have jerk in hydro
Flatulent gifts human and dog
front mount snowblower
Hydraulics Won t Work
4210 ehydro codes


Hot Topics

NorTrac Tractor Quality Review
Case 446 hydraulic pump
Long 460 hydraulic problem
Jinma Tractor w transmission p
Flatulent gifts human and dog
Generator set up ideas wanted
6X4 Gator Sometimes Shudders
Roof VP75 Brush Mower Manual


Featured Suppliers

Mountain Creek Labradoodles
      MountainCreekLabradoodles.com





New Forums on Gun Sport Shooting and Hunting -- BarrelPoint.com  New Forums on Horses ManePoint.com
Talk Horses at ManePoint
Hunting + Gun Sports at BarrelPoint



Most Viewed

+ New Holland TC33D Tractor Frame broke in Half
+ Boomer 8N CVT
+ TN-75 reliability question
+ AG vs Industrial Tires
+ Ls Tractors Rebadged New Hollands
+ Need advice before Buying Ford NH 1720 tractor
+ New Holland TC29D rear hydraulics
+ NH 7308 LOADER ON OFF
+ New Holland TZ25 DA - not feeling the love
+ Rear remote hydraulics

Most Discussion

+ New Holland TC33D Tractor Fram
+ Liquid Tire Ballast
+ JD 4210 or TC35D
+ New Holland TC 33D Hydraulics
+ TC 33D Blowing Fuses
+ Lights on ROPS
+ Buying TC34DA
+ Diesel Fuel
+ TC25D rear pto shaft broken
+ Boomer 8N CVT

Newest Topics

+ TC33D Telescoping steering column
+ TC33D won t move -
+ Soft Start Problems
+ Drain Cock
+ Air in 2003 New Holland TN75D Hydraulic system
+ Wiring schem
+ Adjusting the 7308 pressure relief valve
+ Tc29da
+ TN75DA Does Not WARM UP
+ new holland Tc 29 da glow plug light on dash
















Turbochargers for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Cab Glass for Tractors and Industrial Machines

Alternators for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Radiators for Tractors and Industrial Machines

Driveline Components for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Starter Motors for Tractors and Industrial Machines