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 10-28-2010, 12:02 Post: 174822
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OK I got my D1600 home, I put a new battery in it and when I try to crank it, it will make about 1/2 a round and it acts like it comes up against something, the guy I bought it off of said he did not know if it had a compression release, anyway he said he never had to use one that he knew of, any suggestions????






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 10-28-2010, 13:51 Post: 174825
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Did you see it running before you bought it? Did you drive it up onto a trailer to get it home?

There's a bunch of reasons why it might do that, top of the list is that there's fluid in the cylinder causing it to 'hydraulic'. Since you can't compress a fluid any in the cylinder will stop the piston dead.


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 10-28-2010, 15:56 Post: 174828
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I bought it before I saw it, the guy said it was running when he parked it about 3 years ago, it came with an almost new finish mower and it was a guy I work with, so I don't think he was trying to unload it. One thing that I noticed when I picked it up( wenched on trailer) was that the roof on the shed had blown off and the exhaust pipe did not have a cap on it. The oil does not show any signs of water. What would be the easiest to take apart to see if it had fluid on the cylinders? Thanks for the responce.






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 10-28-2010, 16:52 Post: 174829
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The simplest would be to remove the fuel injectors from both the head and the lines to them from the pump, then wrap each line with a sturdy rag, stand clear, and carefully roll the engine over.

NOTE: The best way to roll over the engine is by hand to limit the possibility of damage if the engine is hydraulically locked.

NOTE: Fuel will likely spurt out of the lines at very high pressure, and any liquid in the cylinders will spurt out the empty holes if you crank it with the starter.


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 10-28-2010, 18:10 Post: 174832
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You should also check the diesel fuel for water in it and install new filters possibly drain the tank before you get gelled or worse fuel in the pump and injectors. At least check the fuel by draining some of it.






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 10-28-2010, 18:36 Post: 174835
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Thanks for the help I have to work the weekend but hopefully Monday I can try this....Thanks again






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 10-31-2010, 21:36 Post: 174889
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any pointers for me on taking the injectors out? I have never done this before. I am going to start on it in the morning.






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 11-01-2010, 15:33 Post: 174902
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took the injectors out, rolled it over by hand and water came out of both cylinders, drained the fuel tank, oil and took oil filter off, will change fuel filter next. How should I clean the injectors? Is there anything else I should do before putting it back together?






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 11-01-2010, 16:28 Post: 174903
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The big issues will be if there was water sitting in the cylinders;

a) was it enough, and there long enough, that it froze over the winter?

b) did it leave the cylinder walls rusty or pitted?

If you're very lucky it will be ok, but if not, there's a real chance that if the water froze in there it cracked something, like a cylinder or piston.

You don't need to do anything to the injectors themselves. Just put them back in, then just barely snug the lines to them and (with fresh fuel in the tank) crank it over till you have fuel coming out at each injector. Then tighten the lines down and try to start it.

Be warned though. The fuel will spray pretty good, wrap a cloth around each loose fitting, and be gentle with the starter. It will likely take a bit of cranking to get it to fire up after opening the lines. Only crank it for about 15 seconds max, then let it sit for a few minutes to cool down.

Also, don't use ether to try to start it, really hard on a diesel. If anything use a little WD-40 down the intake.


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 11-01-2010, 20:58 Post: 174907
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Thanks for the info, it will more than likely be week after next before I get back to it as I go on hootowls tomorrow so i am gone from 5pm to 7am and when I get off Fri morning we are leaving on vacation, when we get back the next fri I will have another week off to mess with it.

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