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 08-12-2007, 04:34 Post: 144626
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Hi,
I have a 1969 MF135 which generally works well. We recently fixed a finger bar grass cutter to the machine and found that the front loader refused to respond to requests to raise itself! Told by various experts that an inability of the rear arms to move freely through their full scope would disable the front loader I removed the fingerbar - but the front still won't work! The rear arms will happily go up and down all day. I'm a newcomer to tractors and will gratefully receive any ideas that experienced users/owners may have. mike






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 08-12-2007, 08:04 Post: 144627
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Mike,

Welcome to the group. I'm sure somebody here will be able to help you solve this problem.

Being that you are new to tractors, I would like to go over some of the basic stuff with you.

Have you checked your hydraulic fluid levels? The most common problem is that you don't have enough fluid to operate/extend the cylinders. When you installed the mower on the back, it's possible that you lost just enough fluid to cause this problem.

The mower's hydraulic circuit could have been completely dry, which could have sucked any reserve you had from your tractor when it filled.

Have you checked and/or changed your filters recently? Do you have any idea when they were changed last? It's possible that your filter is plugged up, causing you to lose fluid flow to your pump.

Both of these problems usually take place right after hooking up an implement that is powered by hydraulics.

I'm not familiar with your particular tractor, but I'm willing to bet that your problem is very simple in nature.

Let me know what you find after checking your fluid levels and filters.

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 08-12-2007, 18:50 Post: 144637
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 Massey Ferguson MF 135 Hydraulic Problem

I'm with Joel's reply. In addition, if it is fluid-level related you will likely ruin the pump for the loader which is probably separate from the 3-pth pump, but they may use the same fluid reservoir--but not always; my buddy has a 1969 Ford 2000 with a factory loader. The loader uses the framework (tubing) of the loader itself as a reservoir. The pump for the loader is located on the front of the engine under the radiator. So I'd stop using the machine, and inspect the loader frame for a "reservoir" and a filler plug that looks out of place comapred to seeing it on a tank or reservoir.






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 08-20-2007, 04:40 Post: 144830
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Thanks Joel,(sorry for the delay -been away),
The fluid level was above the low line but I've topped it up to full. The cutter bar uses the PTO rather than hydraulics so that won't have drawn any. As I understand it the 135 has only the one pump and that does seem to work fine at the rear. Although I don't see how filters would affect one end and not the other (my ignorance) I'll give them a shot and let you know. Again many thanks
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 08-20-2007, 04:47 Post: 144831
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Thanks for that. I will check the loader again(though it's such a simple one that I doubt it can have much to hide!). The MF135 is a bit simpler than the Ford as it only has the one pump. I'll look at filters but am still a bit mystified.
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 08-20-2007, 08:41 Post: 144836
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Some Masseys require the 3 pth to be fully raised to use other hyd. systems. Try raising the arms fully and then see if the FEL works. Not sure the draft setting comes into play on this. kt






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 08-20-2007, 09:14 Post: 144837
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My MF135 is equipped with a backhoe and loader. The pump does not have allot of flow capacity. It sometimes takes 10-20 seconds for the loader to respond after startup. My hoe operates slowly and won't move two cylinders simultaneously. Mine also has a diverter valve. In one direction, the backhoe is used (believe the 3 point is disabled-never used it) and the other direction, the loader operates.






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Thanks for that. Do you have any idea why the position of the rear arms can influence things at the front end? Just like Pete from the UP mine has a two way valve to pick whether the stuff at the front or the back gets the fluid flow. It always worked perfectly until we fitted the approx 400 lb 3 ph lifted cutter. (I probably hadn't put quite that load on the back before but it went up and down very well. Again thanks, mike






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Thanks Pete. I suppose that the answer could be in the front/back switch which I also have. I'll have a look. mike






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Mike, the understanding I have the 3 pt lift arms have to be fully raised to work has to do with who put the aux. hyd valve on. If built into it by Massey you did not have to raise the 3 pt arms. If dealer installed valves, the arms had to be raised to cause the fluid flow to be diverted to those valves. The Massey's I have seen that required the 3 pt arms to be raised I think all have the remote valves installed on top of the transmission. Not saying that holds true for all set ups. Massey still was using this option as recent as about 20 years ago. kt






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