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 02-09-2007, 14:47 Post: 139675
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Hi everyone, I bought a Northern Ontario waterfront lot last year and would like advice on BX TLB capabilities. I have several big stones 2X2X3, stumps from trees 16 inches across and the rest is rocks and gravel that I need to move around the lot to level. I also need to clear the waterfront of rocks "slowly" so the Ministry don't notice (wink). IF needed, I have limited access the neighbours backhoe, but would like to do most of it by myself. From what I have read the BX seems capable but I figured I ask the experts. Told the wife I would by a tractor, use it for a couple years then sell it, but after reading about the BX maybe I'll try to hide it in the garage after!!

Forgot to add. Stones do not have to be lifted away, rolled out of the way would be find. The stones weight about 170 # per cubic foot. And I got all the time in the world (if The BX comes with a beer holder). Canadian eh!






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 02-09-2007, 15:50 Post: 139682
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Ontario, first of all, welcome to the board neighbour!!!!

Second, not to err, umm, 'rain' on your parade, but take it from experience, it's NOT the MNR you have to worry about. You put a tractor on the shoreline, and 6 people will be out there with cameras and telephones in hand.

As to your stones, ones that size will weigh in the neighbourhood of 2,000 pounds. You will not lift those with anything close to the size of a BX, if you are really lucky, and a bit patient, you MIGHT be able to roll them on fairly flat land, or downhill, certainly not up hill. They may move a little, but when you stop pushing, they will come right back at you, with a VENGEANCE!!!

Best way to deal with rocks on a shoreline is to set anchors in the ice with an auger and let them freeze in really good, then this time of year use a come-along to winch them out onto the ice, when spring comes they'll disappear for good. Just be sure to mark them well so nobody hits them with a sled.

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 02-12-2007, 20:53 Post: 139723
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Thanks for the advice, I guess I need to buy a backhoe>>>






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 02-13-2007, 08:44 Post: 139735
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I don't know your site conditions/terrain, but you may want to look at a walk-behind (or ride-behind/on), rubber tracked, skid steer loader with pallet forks---no bucket needed for moving the rocks and stumps. Some brands are Bobcat, Vermeer, Kanga, RamRod, and DitchWitch. The DitchWitch and Bobcat are very strong machines. I saw one push BIG pulled-out stumps, and about 10 yards of tree debris at one time--and that was on swampy mud. With the pallet forks you may not be able to lift the rock and carry it, but you may be able to get underneath it, tip and power-roll it. You may find that making a sling from chain, rope, cable or 2" strap can be used to pull previously unreachable items. You could put the skid steer (or even a car or truck) on dry land or a highly tractive surface and tug away. A backhoe may have the reach but you may end up miring it. That won't be pretty. The skid steers aforementioned can be sometimes rented in most locales---if not, look up local landcapers who may own their own machine. If that doesn't work, look up the manufacturers' local dealer for assistance. Just like cell phones 25 years ago--everyone should have one (if you have $15-30K)






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 02-13-2007, 08:54 Post: 139736
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Ontario, based on where you are, and the kind of work you want to do, I would say you're going to need a VERY big backhoe.

You would probably end up with a much nicer job getting a local in with a dozer for a day or two during freeze up, like now, to push the stones you want out onto the ice, or up into the bush, whichever you please.

You can do a LOT of work with a dozer in the winter and never even know it was there come spring if the operator knows what he's doing. Price-wise a dozer is very good value, you can accomplish a lot of work in pretty short order, and they don't cost a lot per hour to hire one.

If you are along the 144 corridor, or either way on 17 there are all kinds of little one man shows with a backhoe a dozer and a dump truck for hire. If you can let them do it as fill-in between other jobs, they will often make you a really good deal.

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 02-13-2007, 14:31 Post: 139739
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Murf: Firstly, my bad for not thinking that yer frozenin up there in the hinterland.

Second, you don't like the mini-skid steer idea?






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 02-13-2007, 16:06 Post: 139743
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Jeff, I like the idea...... BUT.......

The area he's in is sort of like the UP or northern Wisconsin area, terrain wise, certainly NOT the place for a 'mini' anything, pretty tough ground.

Also, the rocks he's talking about are 2,000+ pound pieces, and the next to the lake, along the shore.

Personally, I think the machine for the job, based on fighting with them in that area in the past, is a 20+ ton excavator with a thumb on it.

But I'm jis' sayin's all.......

BTW, I take it your 4 wheeled abode didn't leave in that storm this morning? Wink yeah right

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 02-13-2007, 16:52 Post: 139745
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Murf,
"BTW, I take it your 4 wheeled abode didn't leave in that storm this morning?"

More circles??? Just asking...
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 02-13-2007, 17:35 Post: 139746
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Kenneth, more circles indeed, but the bad kind.

A nasty band of thunderstorms went through the New Orleans area early this morning, spawned a suspected tornado.

Undid some of the Katrina repairs. So Sad

I wonder if it ripped any of the tassles or fringe of ole Jeffy's tractors canopy? Wink yeah right

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 02-13-2007, 22:12 Post: 139750
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Actually in "N'awlins" there were at least two tornados, 28 injured one dead. Being 12 miles from the LA border, I was braced for the worst, but the trailer didn't even rock. There was alot of thunder and pouring rain for a few hours early this morning. And today it was 77 and so sunny that my forearms still burn. Gotta tell you though, I'm living on property adjacent to 3 very tall cell phone towers. When the winds blows through them and their guy wires it sounds like 100 freakin' locomotives I tells ya!

I'm parked under two smaller Live oaks that made it through Katrina so I figured it's probably safer directly under them than away from them as far as falling trees go.

I'm five miles from the gulf bay. Even so, if the winds blow on even a nice day from the southeast the roads can flood 8" or more---sometimes 3-4 feet every 4-5 years---and it's been 3 so far since. Homey don't do dat. Thanks guys for think'n of me.

Now... who can I rely on to help evacuate Smile? No hurry. Hurricane season starts in a few months.

And Murf the best price I got to get the manlift was $1 loaded mile. The worst (and he's from the hinterland of course) was $1.75. It will cost me $1250--about the same for just fuel for me if I go get it it---and I won't be on the road for 5 days either.






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