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 05-09-2004, 20:39 Post: 85612
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I am sad to say I was pulled in by all the negative remarks and recalls with the John Deere and made the mistake of getting a less than perfect machine...a Kubota. My dad really wanted this awesome 4310 with a loader but after researching and finding problems with the ehydro and the fact that JD is made from all over the world, also the plastic hood was a concern..well...we went with the Kubota. He likes it but we both realize now how nice it would be to not have a clutch pedal to deal with..about that plastic..he dropped a rock on the metal Kubota hood 1hr after the purchase now he has a nice dent. We had to get pretty creative with are feet with the brake being on the same side as the foward pedal. He hates the rattling and location of the loader joystick....the JD location is much better....we should of spent more time test driving.






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 05-09-2004, 22:20 Post: 85620
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First, I am sorry to hear to you are not happy. I know there is alot of talk about all the different tractors out there and why one is better then the other. I am just glad there are so many options and that we have the choices. I know what you mean about the creature comforts of the Controls and foot pedals. I did some test driving and played with the front end loaders and I ended up deciding on the New Holland. But I didn't think about the Spilt brakes and control pedal on the same side. But Honestly after driving a few different brands. I don't think it would have mattered. I still would have gone NH, but that was just the one I felt most comfortable in






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 05-09-2004, 23:29 Post: 85626
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I am confused. You have the brake pedal above the forward HST pedal and you are having trouble operating the clutch at the same time?

I think you have too many pedals there. If there is a clutch pedal it is for engaging the PTO, not for driving the tractor. Doesn't your tractor stop when you release the HST pedal? It should.






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 05-10-2004, 05:50 Post: 85634
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the problem is when you are on a hill. I dumped a load of sand next to a pond and needed to hold the brake because the tractor would move foward even with your foot off the foward pedal. I had to use my right foot to hold the break as I lifted and dumped the bucket and then used my left foot to hit the backward pedal to back up..if not I would roll foward until I could touch the backward pedal or give my tractor a bath. If I had the JD I would just keep my left foot on the break and my right foot on the HST pedals. The Kubota has the clutch on the left, brake and HST controls on the right.






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 05-10-2004, 09:13 Post: 85648
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Sorry. I got the impression you were using the clutch while doing all that other stuff.

Yes it is normal for the machine to roll on a steep slope. I had a BX with a similar pedal set-up. I think I understand the tap dance you are talking about.

Try this: Instead of driving down the slope let it drift down on its own while you control the forward motion with the reverse pedal.

That way your foot is in the right place when it comes time to back out. It would also be a good place to use 4wd as I am sure you already do.






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 05-10-2004, 10:14 Post: 85653
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Thanks.. I will try it. I just got the tractor and so I am not that educated on all I can do with it. Do you know if this will hurt the transmission doing this?






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 05-10-2004, 10:33 Post: 85656
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I'm too am sorry to hear that you are not happy with your tractor purchase. I think Deere is the only one that makes the pedals different. After having my Cadet for 7 years with pedals like the Kubota, I test drove a Deere a few months back and couldn't get used to the Deere. I think after you have it a while you will grow to like it.

I'm able to hold position on steep inclines by just lightly tapping the forward or reverse positions without using the brakes. I rarely use the brakes. Once you become accustomed to using the tractor it will grow on you. Just give it a chance.

As for the dent, you shouldn't be dropping stones on it. Assume the bucket was filled to full and was tilted full back and loader was raised to near top position. I'm anti-plastic in most instances. JD uses a very thick material but am still concerned about the long term affects on the hinging, etc. in cold weather.






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 05-10-2004, 11:05 Post: 85661
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Thanks for the advice. Yeah my dad went too high with the bucket because he never used one before and filled it too full. He just wanted to see how much it could hall. So far the tractor has been able to do every chore asked of it. He had an old john deere (110) and this had the clutch brake on the left...think this is why he is having problems..overtime he will probably grow to like it...sure beats mowing 3 acres with a jd 110. I should add that one of the reasons my dad did not get the deere was he felt the plastic would not hold up in the long run just like you thought...he thinks a tractor should be metal and not plastic like a toy. Thanks again...






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 05-10-2004, 14:04 Post: 85668
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I know exactly how you feel. I too - bought a kubota 7610 instead of a deere. What a mistake. Don't let any one tell you different. I had the same problems. But now that you own a kubota I quess you'll have to make the best of it. Good luck






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 05-10-2004, 15:12 Post: 85673
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This debate rages constantly. I bought a Kubota instead of a Deere, and am not at all sorry. I drove and researched both extensively before I bought. There were pro's and con's to both. In the long run, the Kubota has been a great tractor. Would I change some things, of course, but I would have changed things on the Deere also.






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