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 03-05-2004, 23:58 Post: 78966
ed wiley
2004-03-05 23:58:24
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 jd 1050 starter problems

having 1050 starting problems.have had starter checked at by starter shop it checked out ok but when starting it takes about 20 times before it will engage the flywheel is there shims that should go on the bolts to space the starter out or what it seems that the starter is trying its best spinning and all but just want engage flywheel. I don't see any teeth broken and like I said the starter is fine it works on the test bench kicking in and out like it should. If any one has an idea what it could be please let me know thanks.






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 03-06-2004, 07:15 Post: 78986
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The starter pinion clearance on mine is adjusted by shims. A manual would have procedures and specs. Clearance might be the problem if the shop didn't have the specs.

The problem also could be a weak solenoid or a weak battery, bad cables, dirty terminals or a few other things. Cleaning the chassis end of the ground cable is good.






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 03-07-2004, 20:22 Post: 79176
e wiley
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TomG appreciate the reply yes I think if I had a tractor manual that would help. they are hard to come by. I think I will try putting a washer or two between the bolt studs and see if this will space the starter out some what do you think?






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 03-08-2004, 06:15 Post: 79216
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I don't think I'd guess or experiment in this case. If you are in a hurry maybe one of the IT manuals would have a procedure and fast delivery time. Maybe if you ordered a shim kit from a dealer somebody would describe the specs and procedures. Hope you can read all of this or you register.

The shims for my Ford of similar size and age go under the solenoid but I believe other makes do go under the starter. My shims are fairly specific parts--rings around the entire mount surface with holes for the mounting bolts. The speced range for pinion clearance isn't very large.

I don't think you want to pick something that is under considerable torque when operated off its mounting surface and onto washers. Guessing and getting a very wrong clearance could break the starter or ring gear, which would become very expensive repairs. Misalignment of the pinion would add a bunch or wear to it and the ring gear.






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 03-09-2004, 05:33 Post: 79286
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TomG Thanks guess I'll have to get manual for the washers did't work. I don't quit figure how the shims work do they space out the starter or what?






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 03-09-2004, 08:17 Post: 79302
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On mine the shims go between the solenoid and starter assembly case. The solenoid plunger pulls a lever that pushes the pinion into engagement with the flywheel gear. Increasing the number of shims moves the solenoid further from the starter case, which pulls the lever and moves the pinion closer to the flywheel.






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 03-09-2004, 19:16 Post: 79364
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TomG Thanks again I got to get a manual you said the I&T shop manuals were ok to use. I have been into the starter but did not notice anything about shims. I put it back together and took it to the starter shop and they tested it and it ran and kicked in they said it was working like suppose to but they did not tear it apart. I am pretty sure that shims must be the problem. It is kicking either too far or not far enough to engage the flywheel properly. I do remember seems like there was a small washer like on the plunger or pinion I'll have to get the manual. If you have anymore ideas on it let me know. Thanks Again TomG.






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 03-09-2004, 19:47 Post: 79371
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My notion is that the IT manuals are not a complete substitute for the factory manuals, but one might be more available. I've heard stories that some specific procedures or specs may not be present or at least not described very well. Many of them don't have wiring schematics.

My starter doesn't always catch either especially when it's cold. I'm going to go through the whole inspection thing right after spring work is done. I don't think there are enough hours on it so the brushes would need replacing but things that should be fixed can do major damage if left go too long. My theory at the moment is a weak pull-in winding on the solenoid due to age rather than use.






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 03-09-2004, 21:20 Post: 79387
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It sounds to me as if the drive gear is probably defective. These gears have a one way clutch in them that may be slipping. If the drive is spinning while the starter is on the bench, it is because there is no load on it then. Take it to the repair shop and tell them to replace the drive gear.






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 03-10-2004, 05:56 Post: 79408
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JDGreen I'm not really sure on that when it kicks in it only goes one way some said if it was bad that it would not kick in or it would turn either way so I'm not sure on your message but thanks for the reply and if you have more let me know.






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