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 12-16-2003, 13:44 Post: 71367
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I have posted a few pictures taken Thanksgiving weekend while assembling the backhoe I built for my 2210. (It has already been called my Christmas gift to me cannot understand why!)

Hydraulics are primarily based on a set of plans I bought online. A PTO pump feeds through a flow splitter to 2 separate 3-spool valves. The main frame between the stabilizers serves as oil reservoir. The weather has not cooperated, it has been either frozen and snow-covered or muddy, so I will not do any real digging until spring but everything works OK while running the controls through their paces in the comfort of my garage.

Reach is about 10 feet from the main pivot and it should dig to just over 8 feet deep. The main boom swings about 150 degrees. Because of the tractor size and weight I kept the bucket to only 10 wide while the stabilizers spread to almost 9 feet.

I considered 3-point hitch attachment but decided against it because the upper link mount did not look too strong and the length of the lower links would have forced me to move the hoe back at least 6 feet, bad for both balance and ground clearance. Instead I came up with a sub frame that hangs from the cross bar for the lower 3-point arms and extends forward to plates welded to the bottom of the FEL mounts. (Short enough to clear the MMM deck at its highest.) In addition to hanging off the cross bar, the rear has a pin through the original drawbar hole.

Although playing with the snow blower is fun, I cannot wait for spring!






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 12-16-2003, 13:55 Post: 71368
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Wow, that's some beautiful work! Wish you were my neighbor Smile






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 12-16-2003, 14:18 Post: 71375
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Very nice.

Iím curious how the seat arrangement works? I canít quite tell from the pics.






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 12-16-2003, 14:41 Post: 71377
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The backhoe has a separate seat mounted witha hinge at the top of the post that holds the control valves. It locks nearly straight up when operating the tractor and folds down flat to run the backhoe. The original tractor seat has to be folded forward since they almost touch. Only drawback is I had to bypass OPS to run PTO while on the second seat.






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 12-16-2003, 14:46 Post: 71378
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Psimonson, The backhoe looks great! It's satisfying to create your own stuff. Lots of work though. Your shop looks much cleaner than mine. Smile

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 12-17-2003, 06:56 Post: 71438
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I'm curious about the hydraulics. I'm guessing the splitter is a proportioning valve that gives a set percentage of flow to each leg and the PTO pump has enough flow to produce acceptable speed in all functions. From the description, I don't have to look at the pics to know that this is good work.

I'm thinking that the set up might give simultaneous operation of one function on each of the SCV's and that would be a very good feature. I know it would save me a bunch of time if I could swing and raise the boom or extend the stick at the same time when dumping. My single stack valve gives me 'the lightest load moves first' operation and that just isn't predictable enough for me. I know that some large hoes have separate pumps just for the swing cylinders.






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TomG - your thinking about the flow splitter affording simultaneous operation of one function on each of the SCV's is right-on. One input from the pump is divided into two equal outputs.

I used a $75 spring-loaded splitter while the more sophisticated (expensive) ones truly meter the flow though gears like 2 hydraulic motors coupled together.
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 12-18-2003, 07:24 Post: 71562
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I think that type of splitter valve is fairly easy to change from equal flows to other percentages. Equal sized orifices on both legs gives 50%-50% division but different sized orifices in the legs can give different percentage division. There may be potential for fine tuning if a tinkering mood happens to occur. For example function like the boom which tend to be slower than others could be put on a higher flow leg. The tinkering might be interesting if the mood is right, but the hoe probably works just fine as it is.






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 12-18-2003, 07:49 Post: 71567
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The work is outstanding. I assume you made the cab as well? If so, do you have some plans or do you make any on the side? You are welcome to email me on the side, but kudo's to your work.






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 12-19-2003, 07:09 Post: 71681
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Looks great!

I am also interested in plans - any idea of much it cost you to build?

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