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 12-08-2003, 09:04 Post: 70527
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I removed the MMM this weekend to put away for the winter. Thought I would pass along a little feedback for anyone else who might be doing the same thing.

Removal was pretty straight forward. I followed the instructions in the mower owner's manual and they actually work with a few *'s. I found that the spring loaded pins still had some weight or load on them even though I had the mower resting on the ground. I used a long pry bar to move mower up and down a small amount to relieve the weight on the spring loaded pins and allow them to release. The instructions did not cover turning the front wheels full lock to the right to make more clearance to slide the mower out from under the tractor. If you have the mower adusted to cut high (i.e. 3" -4" inches) you may not have the clearance to slide the mower out from under the tractor and you will either have to lower the mower or if you have a FEL installed, use the FEL to raise the front of the tractor just enough to clear the mower.

Another suggestion I would HIGHLY recommend is to replace the cotter keys in the UPPER rear lift links with the quick disconnect type spring pin so you can easily remove the rear lift links BEFORE you attempt to slide the mower out from under the tractor. Otherwise you need to be VERY CAREFUL to move or tie the links out of the way when sliding the mower out. I removed the links so they were not dangling and out of the way. Also, don't forget to purchase a pto protective cover. (they are a composite plastic cover that twist/snaps over the pto to keep dirt out and protect it)

Now for the fun stuff........WOW!!!! is that mower heavy!!!! I strongly suggest removing the rear anti-scalp roller to allow tipping the mower up on its side without it slipping and sliding. I tipped the mower up against the wall and leaned with enough weight against the wall that the mower seemed pretty steady in that position. Tipping it up on the rear anti-scalp roller bracket also allows the gearbox input shaft AND seal to face up so oil does not set against the seal. (I don't think the seal was designed to seal in this postion)

I positioned the mower so the blades were facing out from the wall which will allow me to easily replace the blades and clean the grass build up off. I purchased an extra set of blades and swap out the new for the current installed blades. I file the blade edges back to spec. and will install them next year when I do this again. While you have the mower off the tractor is a great time to check or change the gearbox oil and grease the pto shaft fittings as well as pressure wash the underside of the tractor.

A NOTE OF CAUTION!!!!! This mower is extremely heavy!!!! Like to the tune of well over 400 lbs. Be VERY careful when handling the mower and a helper would be well advised. Warn the kids to stay away from it while it is stored against the wall and some kind of straps or brackets to secure it to the wall would be well advised.

The tractor seems to be a lot more nimble going over rough ground now without the MMM and I can go over more debry and obstacles now.






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 12-08-2003, 09:54 Post: 70534
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 Removal and Storage of MMM for storage on 4410

I removed my deck fairly easily after using the FEL to pick up the front of the tractor. My brother and I hoisted that monster into the shed and laid in on some of those concrete stepping stones and small 2X6's to keep the wheels off the ground and not getting flat spotted. When I take it out of the shed I may have make a rig to use the FEL instead of the manual moving. I was afraid to store it in any other position than the way it sets on the tractor.






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 12-08-2003, 09:58 Post: 70535
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I have too much junk in the basement and just did not have the space. I need to do some Spring cleaning!!! Wink yeah right






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 12-08-2003, 19:28 Post: 70592
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 Removal and Storage of MMM for storage on 4410

In addition to cheif's suggestions, it is a good idea to remove the belt shields when taking the deck off for the winter and cleaning grass and debris from under them. Grass clippings, especially if they get wet, are very acidic. Keeping the top and bottom sides of deck clean will lengthen the life of your deck.






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 12-10-2003, 20:15 Post: 70774
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I stumbled across this site a week, or so, ago. This guy has been trying to advertise to web boards and being deleted, so I'm not promoting his product. In fact, I wouldn't pay the $90 he's asking for a set. Rather, I think it is ingenuitive and I intend to build my own wheels for vertical storage and handling of these big mower decks. I can't figure out why tractor manufacturers haven't thought of this before. Link is below

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 12-10-2003, 20:26 Post: 70777
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That is a good idea! The only problem I see with his storage axles is that the mower is stored with the pto shaft facing down towards the floor and this would force the oil in the gearbox to rest up against the input shaft seal. I am not sure it the seal would leak or not but I don't think it was designed to make a good seal in this position. You might find an oil mess on your mower and floor after prolonged storage. It sure does look like it is a LOT easier to use than the way I did though. I may try making a set for myself too.






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Excellent points, Cheif. I'm not certain whether the seal in my 62C is designed to hold its integrity under the ambient level of lubricant at all times. I will take a gander when I get a chance, but if the seal is constantly submerged when the deck is horizontal, it shouldn't know the difference when turned to the vertical position. Worthy of investigation either way.

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