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 01-26-2003, 00:10 Post: 48161
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I recently purchased a JD 4115 and absolutely love the tractor. However, I now find that I have a need to occasionally use a backhoe. According to the charts, John Deere soesn't make one that fits. Does anyone know if there is an aftermarket backhoe that I can match up with the 4115? Thanks






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 01-26-2003, 06:47 Post: 48165
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I seem to recall that JD doesn't provide warranty coverage for backhoe use on 4100. I don't know if that's also true for the newer models as well. I've also heard something about JD designing a hoe for their small compacts that they will recommend. A JD dealer might have some info.

I believe there are owners who have after-market sub-frame hoes on 4100's but there may be a warranty issue. If sub-frame models aren't available, most any small 3ph hoe would mount but there's considerable risk of breaking any compact tractor when using a 3ph hoe. If uses are infrequent and light-duty, the risks from using a 3ph hoe can be accepted, which is what I've been doing for the past 4 years. However, my Ford 1710 is stronger than many newer compacts and has cast iron cases. I think the cases on 4100's are aluminum and maybe on later models as well.






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 01-26-2003, 11:24 Post: 48179
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Tom is correct in his recollection: The rear end of the 41xx series is a mixture of aluminum and ferrous castings. This fact and the structure of the tractor (the drivetrain components ARE the frame) mitigate against mounting a three point backhoe.

Deere says the tractor is "not compatible" with any backhoe and after extensive searching I could find no aftermarket sub-frame for this model.

I came up with three options:

1) Get a real small (4 ft.) backhoe and mount it on the three point hitch, kiss the warranty goodbye, and hope I don't break the tractor in half using it.

2) Buy a Trencherman from Northern Tool and use the tractor to tow it around, or maybe figure out a way to cart it around with the three point and have it attached just to a trailer ball/drawbar while in use.

3) Get another tractor.

Number one and number two both cost at least $5000.00 by the time all was said and done and would result in a half-ass backhoe.

I figured I could get a new tractor, which I did, sell the 4100 and take a $3000-4000 loss and still come out ahead.

The only fly in the ointment is that so far I have not been able to sell the 4100.

Do a word search through the archives on the board and you will find lots of debate and info on the topic of 4100's and backhoes. Mark






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 01-26-2003, 13:59 Post: 48189
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My JD dealer has a 4110 on his lot with a Land Pride backhoe mounted to it. The hoe is a subframe mount, I think a 6' model. I haven't priced it out yet. I do not know how a subframe mounted hoe would affect the tractor's warranty, but apparantly my dealer is not worried about selling them. Keep in mind that the tall folding ROPS is required to mount a hoe to the 4115, to allow for operator headroom. Mazzotti is another company that manufactures a subframe backhoe for compact tractors.






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 01-27-2003, 08:24 Post: 48243
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Land Pride was on of the companies I contacted last year and they said they didn't have a subframe for the 4100 then, maybe something has changed.






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 01-27-2003, 16:12 Post: 48267
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Ok, here is the official word.



Mark
Thanks for your interest in Land Pride!
We do have a sub-frame kit available for the JD4100 with the LP backhoe BH1560. ( sub-frame part# 340-149A )
We have not had the opportunity to fit it to a JD4110 yet, but it is my understanding that the two tractors are built on the same frame, so it should fit the JD4110 as well.
Thanks Again!
LJ Wasinger
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 01-28-2003, 12:16 Post: 48320
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I have found that Kelley makes a small backhoe for the 4100 tractor, they are at www.kelleymanufacturing.com






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 01-28-2003, 14:52 Post: 48329
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Never could get that web site to work. Does your Kelley hoe come with a sub-frame?






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 01-28-2003, 15:12 Post: 48330
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Mark, now you need to buy a hoe to make your 4100 more attractive!
When I am ready to take the plunge, I will seriously consider the pros and cons of going with a subframe mount hoe for my 4110 vs. just upgrading to a larger, backhoe compatible tractor. With the type of terrain I have (The Granite State), I question how well a small backhoe would work.






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 01-28-2003, 22:19 Post: 48351
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I don't actually have a backhoe but as a check around for one that will fit my 4100 I found the Kelley hoe. I used to get the site to come up fine but I just tried it myself and it won't work. I saw it on the site and I believe it was a frame mount unit.






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