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 04-28-2002, 11:59 Post: 37911
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I HAVE A JD 4200 WITH FEL AND R-4 TIRES
I WOULD LIKE TO INSTALL MID MOUNT PTO AND 72" MOWER DECK AND A THIRD VALVE LIFT KIT
MY LOCAL DEALER SAYS YOU CANNOT FIELD INSTALL A MID MOUNT PTO AND THAT YOU CANNOT PUT A 72" MOWER DECK ON WITH R-4 TIRES. HAS ANYONE DONE THIS AND DO YOU HAVE THE PART NUMBERS OF THE MOWER DECK AND PTO KIT






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 04-28-2002, 12:59 Post: 37914
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This is a quote from the John Deere webpage:

NOTE: Mid PTO is only Available as a Field Installed Option
(LVB25037) on Tractors Equipped with 2WD Axle and SyncShift
Transmission.

If you go to the Deere site, click on the "Build and Price" link. You'll find that quote there.

So, sounds like your dealer was giving you the straight skinny...






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 04-28-2002, 21:12 Post: 37921
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It is possible to install mid pto and 72" deck but there is a tire interference problem with R4 tires. We have also found that the 4200 with hydro is marginal in horsepower with a 72" deck. It's not so bad with gear transmission but we still discourage 72" decks on anything smaller than a 4300.






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 04-28-2002, 21:30 Post: 37923
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jd110, are you saying the Deere web site is in error?

Note that it specifies "Tractors Equipped with 2WD Axle and SyncShift Transmission"

Just curious...






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 04-30-2002, 19:08 Post: 37982
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What the website is saying is that you cannot factory order mid pto with 2wd, but it can be installed at the dealer. This will probably cost you more than the $300 for a factory installation.






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 04-30-2002, 23:56 Post: 37986
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This should be interesting.

I allegedly have a 4200 4WD hydro FEL being delivered Friday with a 60" JD belly mower and R-4s. They installed the mid-PTO this week and said everything was good to go...

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 05-03-2002, 22:41 Post: 38125
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Horrible, horrible mistake. Got my 4200 delivered today with 60" belly mower, HST trans, 4wd, FEL. I was very excited, but it soon died.

What a disgusting pig.

It is horribly underpowered in this configuration. Even with the FEL removed, the mower/HST combo were defeated on slopes my little GT 235 ran up. It simply ran out of poop. It stalled when I ran it slowly into the field, about 6 inches high with grass and the deck all the way up.

The deck only moves up about 1-2 inches from full up to full down. It will not mow any higher than about 4", and ground clearance with the deck is abysmal. It is useless for anything except a very flat, low growing surface (read: golf course) where it is probably overkill. This does not seem consistent with JD tractor designs I have had/worked with/seen in the past; it is simply a poor integration.

This combo would probably work with 30 hp, but it still lacks ground clearance fro any real work.

I sent it back to the dealer and am now looking for the right solution. It will probably not include the HST because it is such a power robber, and can't have the deck because I need the clearance for those times I need a real tractor on the farm.

You may not know it from this post, but I am a real JD fan from birth. I am just disappointed in this configuration as it was represented.

my 2 cents worth






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 05-04-2002, 06:22 Post: 38134
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Not such a good result. Too bad, but at least it seems like the dealer is working with you.

I guessing that either you already know or the dealer would have pointed out some power robbing things such as low range and nearly full up on the speed pedal gives the greatest power. Pressing down on the pedal like an accelerator gives more speed and less power. I don't know what deck leveling adjustments are possible, but a single spindled cutter that is angled down in front uses less power. Tilting one back does leave mulch rather than cuttings though.

I have sympathy for the ground clearance issue. I generally use our riding mower with the deck in transport, because the highest position still is too short. I'm guessing that the low clearance and narrow range of height adjustment are due to low tractor ground clearance rather than the mower itself. I tend to think of MMMís as going with lawns and 3ph cutters as going with fields. However, people do mow pastures with MMM's. I don't think most people would want their pastures cut short, so maybe it is an unfortunate configuration issue.

When I was a kid, one of my grandfathers used to give me a model JD implement every year for Christmas. He started with the tractor. Suppose I started out as a JD fan even though most uncles had Farmalls. I ended up happily with a Ford and gears--go figure.






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 05-04-2002, 19:14 Post: 38146
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This sound all wrong. There has GOT to be something wrong with the way this tractor is set up. My 4100 will climb steps, wade through waist high brush and climb slopes that will make you think you are gonna fall off the back end. Is there a brake stuck on or something? Low on hyd. fluid???






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 05-04-2002, 21:10 Post: 38151
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It sounds as if the mower is not adjusted properly. these mowers should raise a good six inches if setup and adjusted properly. Also as Tom pointed out, if the deck is not slightly lower in front, it robs power becuse the front of the blade cuts then the rear of the blade has to cut again. Also some misadjusted rockshaft linkage or mower lift valve could result in the hydraulic pump running in relief which is a big power robber. Hopefully your dealer has an experienced tech that can get your machine running correctly.






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