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 12-31-2001, 18:54 Post: 34165
Greg K.
2001-12-31 18:54:22
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 3 pt hitch design on 4100

I am quite satisfied with the 4100; had it for a couple years now but the 3 pt hitch design has to be one of the worst I have seen. Even the 4200 and up models have more hitch adjustment features than the 4100. I have great difficultly adjusting mine so the thing does not swing side to side bumping the tires. I read discussion about rotating the tires to avoid this but the adjustability should have been designed into the 3 pt to begin with. I will visit the dealer to see if a 'fix' is not available. Any ideas or comments?






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 12-31-2001, 21:28 Post: 34167
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 3 pt hitch design on 4100

The 4100 is pretty tight quarters for putting many more 'things' back there. The 3 pt arms usually need to be held together with a strap or bungee cord. Otherwise they flop over to the tires. The adjusting chains are to hold them from going too close to the center, and when used with an attachment, function to keep it from moving back and forth. But having a chain or device to hold them from moving outward, really would make attaching the 3 pt arms very difficult. I don't think the 4100 is any different (other than size) than the other tractors, JD or otherwise.
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 12-31-2001, 21:28 Post: 34168
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I too had a problem with implements rubbing on the 3 ph when the hitch was raised. I reversed my rear tires (I have R4 tires) and no more problems. I don't consider this an issue since the wider tire stance is more stable for loader work, ect...






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 01-01-2002, 09:59 Post: 34177
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Yep, implements tend to rub the tires when the tires are set in close on every tractor I've seen. But few people leave the wheels set to the narrow position unless they have some special requirement like a narrow gate to go through. Even when the tires are set wide, if there isn't some sort of restraint then most 3pt arms can swivel out far enough to hit the tires. That is all normal adjustability.
I think part of the problem is that dealers tend to set the tractors up with the wheels in the narrow position because it saves room, making them easier to park, maneuver, and trailer for delivery....and because the dealer assumes that the buyer is going to adjust the wheels to suit himself anyway. Then we get used to seeing the tractors set up that way at the dealer and it begins to seem normal. But it is only normal at the dealer.






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 01-01-2002, 10:35 Post: 34179
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 3 pt hitch design on 4100

I had that same experience with my 4100 before it left the dealer lot. It was set narrow and he had an implement on it for display in the yard. Unfortunately no one had bothered to check the clearance and the inside of the tires were damaged. They swapped them for me and set it wide before delivery. I had minor problems with that happening afterwards, but was able to tighten things up enough with the links to avoid any damage. Seemed to me to be quite versitile a maching for the size. By the way, I had turfs on mine.






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 01-02-2002, 06:23 Post: 34185
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 3 pt hitch design on 4100

I haven't reversed my R4's on my 4100 yet. I was nervous because the manual said you can't reverse the R4's and I contacted John Deere and they said you can't reverse the R4's. Does anyone have a comment on this?






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 01-02-2002, 10:40 Post: 34192
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I cannot understand why the tires cannot be switched unless they are talking about reversing them but keeping them on the same side. Switch them left to right, and right to left. They will then be going in the same direction but be in the wider stance. The tread is designed to have more traction in one direction, than the other. Some people with FEL reverse the tread on the front tires to get the traction in reverse when the loader is full. Your findings in the manual and from the dealer are very confusing and unbelievable. I suspect the JD's being shipped with tires on, come in the narrow position because of shipping width. The dealer doesn't change them because it is just extra work unless the customer asks them to be changed. Alas, some dealers probably even then doesn't want to change them, so tells the customer they can't be changed. But they can, and often should be in the wide stance unless the mower deck is narrow, and you don't want the tires outside the mowing path.






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 01-02-2002, 10:54 Post: 34194
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Right on Kay. Such a simple thing should not be confusing the dealer, wide to narrow/narrow to wide swaps are as common as an oil change.






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 01-02-2002, 14:35 Post: 34199
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Jihn Deere's reason for not reversing the tires was that there were some instances (???) where the R4's could hit some implements and that by increasing the tread width would cause additional strain on the frame. I did not understand or buy these reasons. I do plan on reversing mine.






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 01-02-2002, 16:11 Post: 34205
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That is interesting. I thought the JD's were built to accept the tires wide or narrow. My 4100 was switched by the dealer before delivery....odd he would do it if the strain would be too great. I am quite sure the N/H and Kubota are not reversable, and I have read that Kubota makes a spacer to move the tires out a bit for chain clearance. Seems to me they would not do that if stress were an issue. Certainly added length to the axle would add stress, but I would hope these machines could deal with it.






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