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 | Glen Schattner
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2000-08-30 19296
For those out there who live in the snow belt and have used their 4100 in the cold winter...have you experienced any problems with slow hydraulics..??? do you have to thin down the fluid or change over to lighter wieght......I live in Manitoba, Canada...so are winters are fairly substantial...lots of -20 to -25 stuff.....anyone use chains with their turf tires,,is it neccessary...glen
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 | cutter
Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 1309 The South Shore of Lake Ontario, New York 
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2000-08-30 19304
Glen, I used mine and had no problem w/4wd front loader and rear blade except real heavy wet stuff. It was kept in an unheated insulated garage and started and worked fine, no -20 to test though. A cab would be nice. ....
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| TomG
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5406 Upper Ottawa Valley 
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2000-08-31 19322
The hydraulics will certainly be slower until the oil warms up. Quite a few people use synthetic oils (engine & hydraulic) which have better cold weather performance. There is some controversy about synthetics I've never really understood. Perhaps that's the reasons I've never switched to a synthetic. I use multi-grade (all-season) hydraulic oil. The oil works just fine in Northern Ontario, but a warm-up for both the engine and transmission is needed. I do use two magnetic heaters on the transmission case, even though my dealer says such heaters really don't do much.
I imagine the a 4100 starts much like any other modern diesel. A block heater is almost an essential, and a battery blanket is a good idea. I use a NH 0W-30 engine oil year-around. The oil is petro-based, but sometimes is called a semi-synthetic.
Use a diesel anti-gel additive, plug in the engine 2 - 3 hours before use, crack the throttle 1/2 - 3/4 and it should start right up. Warm it up at 1500 rpm (diesels don't warm much at idle). Work the hydraulics lightly and it should be ready for work. If the 4100's winter job is snow removal, then you probably don't have to worry much about starting in real cold weather. At least around here it doesn't snow much when it's extremely cold.
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| Roger L.
Join Date: Jun 1999 Posts: 0
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2000-08-31 19323
I use chains with the turf tires, and have for many years. It makes all the difference. I feel that traction with chains and turfs is better than with bare Ag tires . For hard digging through rocky ground I use the chains in the Summer as well. The chains I use are not very aggressive; they are re-sized automotive chains rather than tractor chains.........Roger ....
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 | Murf
Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7252 Toronto Area, Ontario, Canada
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2000-08-31 19328
Glen, while I don't have any Green tractors (a fleet of Orange & a couple large Blue & Red Ag. tractors) they ALL have the same problem in winter, Hydro. or Gear drive, THE COLD, fluids thicken, batteries lose power, etc. Best advice I can offer is this; 1)use a block heater, 2)use a battery heater (small electric blanket that you wrap around it), and most importantly, 3)let the machine run for a short time (5-10 min.) at 1200-1500 rpm before doing anything else, this will allow the engine and trans. to warm-up a little before you start to work them. Best of luck. P.S. 4 months today is New Year's eve.......LOL ....
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