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 06-24-2005, 13:01 Post: 112717
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 JD for clearing trees for pasture and possible haying

What is the smallest JD that would handle these jobs,
tilling using a 7ft howard tiller and a small round baler
in the future with a backhoe to remove 6 to 10 inch trees
being popal and some oak?
Hmmm comparing JD and Kubota's with the bota being a
57 hp I believe the largest of the L series.
We have 50 acres mostly wooded at present and are raising
mini cattle and sheep. I need to make pasture ...
Thanks for suggestions.






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 06-24-2005, 13:16 Post: 112719
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My guess is a 48HP unit (JD4710)would run a 7 ft. tiller quite well and handle the other tasks with ease. You would be able to get things done with a smaller tractor but taking more time. Since you are from Michigan, look at the Auto & RV paper. You also can go to autorv.com. I saw a couple used 4710's listed in there. If you search under "John Deere" quite of number of others come up. I think some had back-hoes also.






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 06-24-2005, 13:22 Post: 112720
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I was also looking at a used Case New Holland this A.M. It was a 45HP unit DX45 with loader. It is a 2003 model with 527 hours. If you are interested, I can give you the dealer's name. Don't know where in Michigan you're from. I can't decide on what I want. I like my unit but am thinking of going slightly newer and cannot, not only decide on color but am having more trouble with size.






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 06-24-2005, 15:46 Post: 112723
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Thanks but hubby is set on green or orange, Thanks Tho...






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 06-24-2005, 15:51 Post: 112724
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Hi Pete,
Let me guess the U.P. Yooper!!
I looked in the trader and the 4710 was in the thumb
didn't list the yr but 24,500. hmmmm might as well go new for warranty and finance??
Hmmmmmm...ponder ponder






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 06-24-2005, 18:53 Post: 112731
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 JD for clearing trees for pasture and possible haying

I've pulled out stumps that size with my kubota bx23. Enough time & patience and my bx23 can dig out (almost) anything. Part of the equation is how fast do you need to clear the land? If you need acres & acres cleared, might just be easier to pay someone to doze the stumps out.

For hay, definitely look at the larger hp tractors. I can actually find a small baler rated for CUT tractors, but they're so costly & hard to find used ... you're better off putting your money into a bigger tractor and get a standard size used baler.






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 06-24-2005, 19:09 Post: 112733
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Running a round bailer takes more than 45 hp. Most folks around my ranch run around 65 to 70 hp. It may seem a bit on the large side at first but I think you fill ultimately find that a 5000 series Deere machine in this range will be needed. For the money spent; if the fancy bells and whistles are not important; I would suggest looking at a Deere 6403 or 6603. My preference would be for the 6603 which comes with the 414 inline 6 cylinder Deere diesel at 109 hp. The 6403 at 98 hp. I am currently dealing with several hundred acres of long neglected pastures and any but a commercial heavy duty rotary cutter will get torn apart. I have already seen a BushHog 84 inch Squealer and a Rhino SE6 take a beating and serious damage. A heavy duty 6 or 7 ft. rotary cutter will weigh in around 1,100 to 1,800 lbs. or more; WAY too much for a 4710. You will also need to be able to move the round bales you make. They laugh at my 4410 and the International 464 my neighbor uses has a tough time with them and he bales small round bales. They weigh in around 1,500 lbs. He also uses an International 784 to run the round baler. The 464 is just not up to it.

You can get by with less tractor but I think in your case you will be VERY satisfied with the Deere 6003 series tractors. Deere even has a special offer of $26,990 for the 98 hp 6403. That is a huge bargain when compared to the 5020 or 5025 series machines.






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 06-24-2005, 19:29 Post: 112734
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Another option I missed mentioning was a Deere 5303. That will get you 65 hp but no 4WD is available. I think you could do well without 4WD but that is up to individual preference.

I noted that you are holding out for "Green Paint" Green is good but not always the best buy. I STRONGLY suggest that you consider a Kioti DK65S. They come with a Perkins diesel, cab, heat, A/C, 4WD, FEL, rotary cutter, and a PHD for about $35,000. Probably the best buy on the market in my opinion. I like Deere but for that price, I would be REAL happy sitting on orange paint. Kioti's are very reliable and solid machines. The same or similar hp tractor in "Green Paint" with similar attachments and implements is going to cost you near double.






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Try playing with some different configurations on the need selector and see what you come up with.






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 06-25-2005, 01:31 Post: 112741
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New Holland makes a BR730 round bailer that requires a minimum of 40hp. As far as stumps go almost anything will work if you do it right. Remember that vast majority of the country was cleared with a horse. There is a good web site that will show you how.

http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/device/devicesToC.html#contents






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