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 06-27-2008, 17:01 Post: 154891
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I was mowing down my praire grass today got about half way thruoght the 6 acres and without warning my oil pressure guage went to zero, idiot light came on and the tractor started to exaust a white gray smoke. It typically has little to no color exhaust when running. Does anyone have any ideas on what to try first. I have checked the oil level and it is good. I also had the fluids changed out about 12 hours or so ago w/new filters. any help on this would be great!! Thanks!!






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 06-27-2008, 20:35 Post: 154897
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White smoke is unfortunately a common sign of water in the combustion chamber and/or exhaust path. But I'm not sure how that would equate directly to such a sudden loss of oil pressure. Just to eliminate a water problem, park the tractor with the oil drain plug on the downhill side. Let the engine cool overnight, it takes time for oil and water to separate. Then check the oil again, noting if it looks lighter than usual - even frothy. If not, loosen the drain plug very carefully so that you only get a few drops out. Since oil is lighter than water, any water SHOULD be the first to drip out.

If the oil looks normal on the dipstick, and no water comes outa the drain - we'll move on to what the deal is with the oil pressure.

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 06-27-2008, 21:14 Post: 154899
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Did the engine stop on it's own or did you shut it off after the oil light came on?






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 06-27-2008, 22:12 Post: 154901
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Hey thanks for getting to my question!! The oil looks good. I did the slow drip of the drain plug and it is straight oil. The tractor was running great. I had noticed that the oil pressure was a little lower than typical but I thought maybe I just needed to top off the oil. A half hour or so later while mowing the pressure dropped to zero. I could hear the engine noise change a bit as it happened and then the white gray smoke started. This all happened in 3-4 seconds. The tractor did not stop, I shut it down. I checked the dip stick and the level looked good. I tried the filter and the filter looks great. I dumped the filter out and put it back on and started the tractor to see if the filter would fill back up. The Tractor started fine but no oil in the filter. I am thinking there is a problem with the pump or screen inside the oil pan? Any tips or ideas? Thanks!!






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 06-27-2008, 23:14 Post: 154902
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Ya beat me to it. The next thing to check once no water was detected was to have been the oil pump. Do you have the type where the bottom of the crankcase is a removeable plate? If so, it's time to think about dropping the front driveshaft and seeing what's going on with that pump.

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 06-27-2008, 23:20 Post: 154903
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I think you are on the right track with a possible oil pump failure or a clogged intake screen. I have to agree that white smoke and oil pump failure don't seem to fit together. White smoke can also mean fuel is being injected but not being ignited because of lack of compression, but I doubt that chain of events would happen that quickly.






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Thanks you guys!! It is good to hear I may be on the right track. I pulled the crank shaft. I think I removed all of the bolts that hold the pan on, but I still can not get that thing to budge. Do you know of anything I may be missing or the best way to get it loose. It is almost dark out here but I really want to get this pan out and see what is what. Thanks for any tips!! Hey Mr. Hardwood, just curious I own a Hardwood flooring co and when I saw your name it made me wonder if you do as well. Thanks!!






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 06-28-2008, 06:53 Post: 154908
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I believe you mean "pulled the front drive shaft", but that's a minor point. I was interested in which engine you've got in that 354, it's been imported with at least three that I know of - contributing dealers here may know of more. In some cases, the type engine dictates how you get to the oil screen and pump.

You used the word "pan", but there was a specific reason that I used the word "plate". The plate type comes right off after convincing the gasket sealant to let loose. As does at least one of the pan types. One of those even has a pump screen that can be removed from the outside. But one (aggravating) pan type has a pair of bolts inside the bellhousing. Hopefully that's not the case here, because it means splitting the tractor to get to them.

It would help if we knew what's printed on the engine label. It's typically on the valve cover, but on some engines is found on the side of the block.

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1'st; Normally the gasket is just stuck to both the block and the oil pan, but there may be a bolt you haven't found yet, I'm not familliar with a Jimna. OK, the "Hardwood" thing, I did own a furniture plant for 35 years. The Mrs. always thought "Hardhead" would have been more approprate. I'm still pretty good at turning perfectly good lumber into totally worthless sawdust. Frank.






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Greg g I just got going this morning, thanks for getting back to me. I have Y485T 05 206 engine. Please lord tell me I do not have the one that requires me to split the tractor to get the pump. If this is the case I may have a big Red lawn ornament for a while. Ha Ha. Hopefully the bolts I haven't found are not located inside the bell housing. Furniture Plant, the Hardwood tag fits perfectly!!
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