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 05-12-2006, 08:23 Post: 129257
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Hello everybody, i'm new to the forum and i have done some reading about PTO hp and was wondering if there was some formula to figure out what the PTO hp is. I have a Cub Cadet model 7260 that is gear drive, i know the engine is a 26hp mitsubishi but what i need to know is how to figure out the hp at the rear PTO. I'm looking to get a generator and i am trying to figure out what is the most kw generator i can run with my tractor. Thanks a lot.
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 05-12-2006, 08:49 Post: 129260
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I don't think there is a set formula. The numbers we quote are what the manufacturers give us.

I have noticed recently that when someone markets a riding mower they are very careful to say that Briggs and Stratton or Kohler says the engine produces "X" horsepower.

My Deere has 24 HP at the engine and 20 at the PTO. I have seen recent Kubotas with 30 hp engines and only 22 at the PTO, so something isn't quite squared up here.

I could cite several other examples, but the point is unless you have access to a dynometer you only have what the owners manual tells you.

That said, I believe your tractor should run a 10KW gen set unless you live in Leadville CO at 11,000 feet.






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 05-12-2006, 08:54 Post: 129261
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As a rule, you will require 2 pto hp for each Kilowatt capacity of the generator you will be running. In a gear drive tractor, hp loss to the pto is not much, typically around 1 - 3 hp. In my opinion you could probably run a 12 Kw generator max. and not over load the tractor. The Cub Cadet 7260 is listed at 23 pto hp. so 11.5 Kw. is what would be allowable if you can find a generator that size. Just calculate the total load you will be placing on the generator and do not exceed its or the tractor's capacity. Sometimes you can get a deal of a slightly larger generator than you need or the tractor can handle. So just be careful with the total electrical load you put on it.






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Thank you for the information, I was told by a generetor manufacturer that they always figure that half of the hp will equal the number of kw the tractor will run, hence 13kw.






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 05-12-2006, 09:22 Post: 129263
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The Cadet catalog at time of purchase rated the 7260 at 23 PTO HP at 2,600 RPM.






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 05-12-2006, 09:56 Post: 129266
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If you can get a good deal on a larger gen set, go for it. Larger KW gen sets are cheaper per KW than smaller ones. That doesn't mean you'll be able to use the full capacity of a larger gen set. Only that you'll be able to generate as many KW that your tractor is capable of.

For instance you have a 20 KW gen set that will deliver 20 KW at 540 PTO RPMs. Your tactor couldn't maintain the RPMs to use 20 KW of electricity but it should be able to maintain the RPMs to sustain 12 KW of usage. The 2 HP per KW is a fairly conservative rule. 1.75 HP per KW is more in line.

Oversizing a generator of this type could be to your advantage. You might, in the future, buy a larger tractor.






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 05-12-2006, 10:07 Post: 129268
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Let me get my facts straight, I've found a 13kw generator for a really good price, i'm thinking by what you fellas are telling me it would be ok to go ahead and get this one.
Also, what's the typical kw demand to run a little bit above 2600 square foot house?

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 05-12-2006, 10:17 Post: 129269
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You can get by powering your house with a generator and tractor set up such as this PROVIDED you carefully calculate the loads you will be powering. This will require a transfer switch panel so you can prioritize and isolate the appliances you want to power with the backup generator.

To power a 2,600 sq. ft. house without restriction on appliance usage and power consumption would very likely require and 20 Kw or even larger generator.

You want to select and prioritize the appliances you MUST run such as refridgerators, freezers, water heaters, well pumps, heat pumps/AC units. Just as an example; it is not out of reason for a water heater to consume 4500 watts. You can go figure more from there.






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The KW demand is something you'll have to figure out on your own or have an electrician help you. It all depends on what you'll be running and how many things you'll be running at the same time. I would make a wild guess and say you could run your whole house at 12 KW but it like I said, I don't know what you'd be running.






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It isn't necessarily the square footage you need to consider. It is the number of high voltage appliances you must consider.

Look at things like well pumps, electric water heaters, heat pumps, electric stoves and electric clothes dryers.

If you have a lot of gas fired stuff you can get by on a much smaller generator.

I had to size my generator to make enough voltage to start and run a 2 HP deep well pump.






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