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 03-16-2011, 01:36 Post: 177404
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I just bought a used ASV HD4500 and it needs tracks. Since I don't put many hours on my machines I'm wondering if anyone knows of a place to find used tracks? Thanks.






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 03-16-2011, 13:25 Post: 177410
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You won't find tracks anywhere but from someone who's replaced the ones on their machine.

I doubt you'd find a used set that was any better than yours. They generally don't get replaced till they're nearly shot.


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 03-16-2011, 16:46 Post: 177412
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I'm with Murf. And if you did find a set in good shape there may another reason they were taken off: broken cables inside the tracks.

I have no idea how aftermarket tracks hold up either.






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 03-16-2011, 19:14 Post: 177413
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Interesting. I have found places on line who say they sell used tracks. I haven't gotten hold of them yet to see if they really do. I met a guy who claimed that's all he bought was used tracks. Can't find his phone number anymore so I can't call him. Found some places that sell factory blems too. I'll contact some tomorrow and let you know what I find.






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 03-16-2011, 19:57 Post: 177414
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A factory blem track. Now I've heard everything. Let us know what you find.






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 03-17-2011, 08:32 Post: 177417
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A factory blem track. Now I've heard everything. Let us know what you find.



Never thought about a track having a scuff mark or bad raise lettering either. With you what would be a "blem" in a track. My guess is it is a PR stunt to claim lower prices.

Jeff, you mentioned earlier no idea quality of aftermarket tracks. Having worked in a different industry for a while selling and servicing a product line of a company who also made private label for another large retailer, you have a good point but might not always be how some think it is. Without knowing the specs for either the "subcontracted" label (for example only, CAT) it could be of much higher quality standards than the company's own label or lower specs. You just don't know. I know the now largest company in the product line own product label did not have some of as high of specs as the private label they built under contract. Seriously, private label for competitor was better than their own best.






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 03-17-2011, 10:33 Post: 177421
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I suspect the 'used' and 'factory blem' tracks are actually the equivalent of 'recaps' in tires.

They take old used up tracks and apply 'recap' treads to them and build up the inside of the track to effectively shorten their length of them so they don't fall off any more.

There was an article about them in a trade magazine a few years back, it warned people of the 'crap shoot' you were taking with them, it seems you had no way to tell how good a job they did at recapping them until you put them on the machine and ran them a while.

By then of course they were "used" and no longer able to be returned.


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 03-17-2011, 13:16 Post: 177423
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I just found a company in IL that sells used tracks. The type track I need is one that has drive lugs on the inside. The machine doesn't have a sprocket with teeth that grab onto holes but rather a sprocket with rollers that grab onto teeth on the inside of the track. If you are familiar with the CAT model 277 track loader this is the same track. So in this case they claim all they do to the track is replace drive lugs if some are torn off. They have a bolt-on drive lug. They warrenty the bolt-on drive lug for as long as the track itself lasts. This is defined as until the track starts delaminating or the tread is completely worn off. They say that if they have a set for my machine the cost for a 75% remaining tread would be about half that of a new track. The cost of a 50% track would be less than half. It depends upon how many drive lugs they had to replace. They do not retread any tracks. When the tread is worn down to the chords the track is junk. I have talked to contractors who have used these same bolt-on drive lugs and they were happy with them. We'll see what they can find for me.






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 03-17-2011, 15:51 Post: 177424
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I'd pop into your Cat dealer and talk to a mechanic or service manager and see what they say. I still can't believe a contractor or any owner who would remove an expensive set of tracks at 75% remaining. It defies logic. Well... my logic anyway.






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I agree Jeff, if there was 75% tread left, and there were bolt on replacement lugs, they'd not be replacing the tracks.

Swapping tracks is not an easy thing to do, I really think someone would think long and hard before removing them. Especially if all they had to do was rotate the track to a clear area and bolt in a new drive lug.

We use aftermarket tracks on our mini & midi sized excavators, the people we get them from are OEM suppliers to most of the big companies so they really are 'factory' parts.


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