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 02-20-2008, 10:14 Post: 151483
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After running Steiner for the last 5 years(410 and 415) I am now upgrading to the Ventrac 4131.It is to be delivered monday,and will make reviews after I have a few hrs. on tractor.I bought this machine new and havent even drove a Ventrac(have reviewed all info I could find though). I think the main reason I switched is the comfort factor.Contol placement looks superior to the Steiner.I loved both Steiners, but was wore out after mowing and my sholder would hurt from holding the hydro lever. Anybody think I made a mistake?Let me know what you think of Ventrac. Eddie






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 02-20-2008, 13:10 Post: 151489
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It really all depends on what you are buying the machine for. I had couple of steiners diesels 230s for mowing and used a 430 27hp gas also. The 230 had limited lift abilities and you could not lift if you steered at the same time(they also discontinued this unit)The 430 had no foot pedals so you had to use one hand on the steering wheel and the other hand on the forward/reverse lever which was awkward and then it had articulated steering too. It really was work to run that thing and i think the ventrac would be just like the steiner 430 only bigger. They are very expensive and only steiner or ventrac attachments can be used and they are expensive. I got tired of down times and excuses from steiner dealer and went to a real compact tractor instead. I can use most any implement made for compact tractors regardless of color.
Depends on your intended uses, Still think if they would redesign the thing, it would get more attention from the public.






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 06-26-2008, 10:18 Post: 154839
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Well,the deal on the 4131 didnt work out,so I made a deal on the 4200 VXD. It is twice the machine the Steiner 415 was.I have only put about 4 hours on this machine ,so I am still learning the controls,but it is quite comfortable.Antone looking at 4wd compact tractors should check one out.I will post more as I put more hrs.on it.






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 10-07-2008, 16:07 Post: 157082
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Well,after a few months and some pretty major problems,the Ventrac has been traded for a new Steiner 430 diesel.Broken axles and burned up belts did it for me,aside that I cant keep gas in the 31hp.(Drinks it as fast as I pour it in).The only thing I did like was the comfort of the Ventrac.I know Steiner is a quality product and will let anyone know of problems if they occur.






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 10-07-2008, 16:56 Post: 157086
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Eddie, did I follow you left Steiner for the Ventrac and it proved to be a problem machine and now have returned to Steiner?






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 10-07-2008, 22:19 Post: 157091
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Eddie...sorry to hear about the steiner problems and ventrac problems and now back to steiner. From the first post, you were tired of using the right hand hydro lever and steering. It seems you are back to the original type of machine, an awkward,hard to use machine with marginal reliablity that beats you up when using.
I think you made a mistake by going backwards and not forward in another choice, but thats my opionion related to steiner and reliability.









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 10-08-2008, 05:42 Post: 157094
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Yes I have went back to a Steiner,the Ventrac was not reliable and I didnt think going to a new one was worth taking the chance.Another problem I had, was rolling the tires off the rims on sidehills.I think they made the tractor a little to heavy.Then there was the leaking hydro hose,wore a thin spot in hose by rubbing on another hose.The SDLA control was way over promoted also,it may be handy for mowing,not using other attachments.






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 10-08-2008, 19:45 Post: 157128
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Every manufacturer has its lemons. I loved my NH TC29D but had more issues with it than any other machine I owned prior or since. But it really is a good machine based upon the comments of other folks that own them.

Sometimes when we are not happy, we bite the bullet, take the loss and do what we feel is right. After all, we are guys and have the right be happy Smile






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 10-24-2008, 10:59 Post: 157469
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Well so far I love the diesel power and am pleased with the purchase.My fuel consumption went from 7+ gal. to 3to3-1/2 gal.I have found the controls and feel of the Steiner 430 machine is all together different than the 410-415.The 430 is a completely different chassis and is heavier than the 415,but lighter than the 4200 Ventrac.Mast-Lepley is a top notch facility,and was a pleasure to deal with,I will recommend them to anyone,and will discourage anyone from Valley Ventrac.






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 09-08-2009, 14:40 Post: 165535
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Well,its not quite been a year but I wanted to let readers know I havent had any service work or problems of any kind on my Steiner 430 diesel.It definitely seems to be a better machine than the Steiner 410,415,Ventrac 4200 that I have previously owned.You dont see any of these in my area,but when it is on my trailer you should see the rubber neckers give it the onceover.(It is a shame these dont have a national commercial).I will probably run this a couple more years and trade for a new diesel model 430,but I will definitely stay with Steiner products. Eddie






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