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Typical TC25D TC29D TC33D or other cold start characteristics

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cdcole
Join Date: Jul 2003
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2003-03-22          51617


Tom's valve train thread reminded me of a question I wanted to ask...

Could one of you describe - in detail - how your tractor starts. I am interested in cold starts with temps in the 20s or 30s (F) What do you set the throttle at during startup? How long to stabilize, puffs, etc.. Can you start it with throttle set at min.? How about 1200rpm? How long to stabilize? I have no one to compare to. Thanks for typing. :) I did get an answer on this but looking for more descriptive detail. Like you are describing it to a NASA engineer - (just kidding).

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treeman
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2003-03-22          51623


I have a TC33D that I've never had a problem starting. I heat my glow plugs, then with the throttle set at min. I start the tractor. I then let it idle for about 60 sec. and slowly start bringing up the throttle. By the time I back it out of the shed I can give it more throttle and start pushing snow. ....

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stlland
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2003-03-22          51638


if you dont plug it in it will chug and missfire slightly for about 10 seconds at about 20f.it will not accell if you advance throttle during this time,and then suddenly go(not a good thing on a cold engine)i use 0w30 nh oil,f200 in hydro,plug it in if its left out,and keep it in the shop when not in use ....

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cdcole
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2003-03-22          51640


stlland - Same thing mine does when cold. Put a heater in lower hose - starts quicker. Relatively new to diesels and wanted to hear exactly what you said. You made my day :). ....

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TomG
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2003-03-23          51662


That's pretty much my experience with my Ford 1710. I think the engine is similar to TC's.

The misfiring for a bit is probably that not all cylinders are not quite up to ignition temperatures. During that period, the injected fuel ends up in the engine oil and washes oil off the cylinder walls in the process. It's not a big deal, but it's better if an engine takes right off.

Setting 1/2 to 3/4 throttle for cold weather starting is sort of like a diesel choke. It provides bigger shots of fuel until the engine catches and comes up to speed. It's not an issue if an engine starts OK at min throttle. Of course, some of the 'bigger shots' of fuel also end up in the engine oil.
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2003-03-27          51990


On my new TC24D, I discovered that New Holland has set the glow plug to go off at 5 seconds which does not do the job. I was getting real rough starting...lots of black smoke and stalling. The dealer told me to hold the glow plug for the 5 seconds(the light goes out) release the key, then hit the glow plug again for another 5...and another if necessary.This solved the problem. Starts much smoother without the black smoke. ....

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kevin3251
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2003-04-10          52898


I have a 24D and it starts hard in real cold weather 10 degrees or colder .I have to set the throttle up a bit so when it does start its at 1200 to 1500 RPM it has one big puff of black smoke and off it goes.It does take a while for the hydraulics to warm up though,even when the engin is up to operating temp.After 10 min of plowing and lifting snow every thing operates like on a summer day ....

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