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Oliver
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2009-01-21          159690


For three years i have been plowing snow with a backblade. I am interested in getting an old 6' plow and attaching it to the loader arms. I have gotten mixed signals from two dealers -- one says it will add too much weight to the front of the tractor and i shouldn't do it, another wanted to sell me a Curtis set-up. Part of the reason I want to do it is for a fun project -- I can keep going using the backblade.

What do people think -- will a set-up like the one Murph talks a lot about work on a tractor as small as mine or will it be too heavy? It would be purely for personal use on a gravel driveway about 300' long.

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Murf
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2009-01-21          159693


You called? LOL

IMHO it will work just fine, in fact I'd bet it works better than anyone would believe. Now the 6' part I'm not sure about if the snow is heavy or deep, but the same width as your back blade (5'?) would work better than it does now out the back.

The whole idea behind the mounting system (as shown in my picture # 15) is that it puts weight on BOTH the front wheels and the plow blade itself.

If it helps any, we used to use 6' blades on our ~20hp commercial mowers (only 2wd also) in the winter for clearing sidewalks at our commercial (shopping centers, etc.) accounts. The difference was we plowed continuously during snow storms though so we rarely had to plow more than an two or three inches of snow.

Best of luck. ....

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Oliver
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2009-01-21          159695


The rear blade I use is 6'. I would use a 5' blade but I don't see many for sale. I have seen the picture -- how is the mounting system you use different than the system Curtis sells (I am not interested in buying one, just curious) -- or is the idea the same? ....

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s chrand
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2009-01-21          159696


I don't mean to hijack this thread, but...
Is there any reason the existing rear blade can't be mounted into / onto the bucket of the FEL, and viola, a front blade? I know it won't have the spring mechanism to let the blade flip back when it hits those cracks and what-not in the driveway, but my rear blade has a rubber edge for the first 2" or so, and hasn't been a problem when run on the back of the tractor.

Is this just lunacy, or more work than it's worth? I'd really like to know before I try it this summer. Plowing the snow we've had this year has been a real pain in the neck with the rear blade.

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2009-01-21          159705


Unless you have an awful amount of plowing to do, why not curl your bucket back a bit and use it to plow? Seems I recall a pipe affair that Murf designed for his loaders, so if you want to get fancy, try that.

I use my 2910 loader in combination with my rear blade to plow 450' of driveway as well as my garage apron and my barnyard. All of it is gravel base topped with stone. I don't even run chains on the Titan industrials. I do have a rear blower but have not needed it this year. Only mount the thing if I have to.

As far as the Curtis loader blade is concerned, you are far better off converting an old truck plow. That gives you a chain retainer (the lift point on the truck) and allows the plow to "float" with the surface. You will find using the float position on the tractor in conjunction with a loader blade is useless. The front wheels lift off the ground as soon as you encounter resistance and all steering is gone (unless you have a JD, they have the turn brakes opposite the hydro control).


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2009-01-22          159710


I push snow with my Bota 7510 bucket. Slow but works fine for my 300 foot driveway and all the out buildings. When I get carried away helping the neighbours on a heavy day I find the bucket far too slow. I have a 5' rake used for summer chores. The lads on the web suggested I use my rake as a rear snow plow. This works well on the first pass. The problems start when I angle the plow. The first shallow angle snow will come over the rake. I set the 5' rake for a sharper angle and the snow angles off nicely but really only clears a 2' track. I would prefer a 6' rake at a sharp angle. This width would work better for snow. Apply a similar thought to a front snow blade. All kinds of alterations can be applied to my 5' rake...widen and heighten for winter use. In heavy snow I do slip and will have chains for next year. Hope some of these experiances help you a bit. ....

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2009-01-22          159712


Thanks for the thoughts! The set-up I have now, rear blade and front bucket, works. I am just toying with the idea of making a better set-up -- and creating a project for myself at the same time (not that I really need one!). I like the idea of finding an old 5' plow and rigging it up so I can plow going forward and ideally, use the tractor's hydraulics to angle the blade. So, if the consensus is that my 7510 is not too light, I will keep my eyes open for the plow! ....

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2009-01-22          159717


Oliver, as Cutter mentioned, the difference between my setup and the Curtis is that the blade can float on mine, like it does on a truck.

This is a HUGE difference since letting it float means the entire weight of the FEL is still standing on the lift cylinders and so adds a lot of weight to the front wheels.

A fixed blade on the FEL means most of the weight of the FEL rests on the blade itself, this gives little in the way of traction to the front wheels and in fact makes a lot more friction between the plow and the earth, making the front wheel traction even less still.

S Chrand, other than as you state, there is no trip mechanism, this in itself is risky unless you have a rubber edge or other safety feature as yours does. But you will not have power angle, and if you leave the bucket in place you won't be able to see what you're plowing since it will be behind the bucket.

Best of luck. ....

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