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jamesrm1
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2004-12-04          101582


Dose anyone have any advice on how to handle a strip of ground that I want to park a P/U truck on. The ground was a grassy area that turned real muddy. I took my Tractor to it to try to back blade it smooth but my wheels started making huge ruts in the mud. Now it's a rutty mess. My Intentions were to put 3/4 clean stone over it and park my vehical on it.

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kubotachick
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2004-12-04          101584


We had the same problem in our barn yard..where we park all the dumps and tractors (or at least the company i work for did) and what they did was go to the local redi mix company and get some old broken concrete and spread that around. Its not that nice to look at, but its less likely to move around like smaller stones do. ....

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2004-12-04          101585


I would suggest you remove the topsoil first. It is likely to digest your expensive stone. ....

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2004-12-04          101588


I would cut it in with a backhoe. I would go even lower then the topsoil level to doit somewhat right. I would go a minimum of 6" below grade...then fill 3" up with 1" then the top 3 inches with 3/4" process. ....

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2004-12-04          101594


I would first (if possible) drain or ditch the area to get the moisture away. Then remove the top soil/Loam before you put down any other material. If it's not possible to dry the area then I would dig the area out down to 18" Minimum and then fill with a good draining gravel or stone.

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2004-12-04          101596


I have made pull off areas for 2 cars off my blacktop driveway. I scraped 6" of dirt out of the area, lined with used railroad ties ($10 each), and filled with item #4. They look great and work great. ....

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2004-12-04          101598


I have removed the top soil and put down geo tex fabric. Once fabric is down there is not need to use diferent sized stone, just fill it up with what size you want on top. I used 2A modified and it has supported over 12K vehicles in all weather for the past 2 years and only 3-4" deep, but I did remove topsoil. ....

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dklopfenstein
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2004-12-04          101600


The fabric (what I have always called "felt") is the way to go... I was told that it is equivalent to 3" of rock. It is easy to put down and keeps everything in its place. The only problem I would see with it is if you were grading it and caught it in some way...then you would have a mess. From what you have said, you would not be grading this area too often anyways with only using it to park on. Sounds like you will have to let it dry out some prior to doing whatever you want to do. Good luck! ....

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2004-12-05          101621


I like the Geotex fabric idea. I found a number of sites that have the stuff but most companys offer lengths suited for highway construction. There is one I'll give a call to on Monday, they have the stuff in 12ft x 50ft rolls, the link is below.
Thanks to all for your advice.

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2004-12-06          101726


I would not scrape any top soil off if you dont need it.
I just done about exactly what you are talking about (Maybe even a pic in my archive I think pic 9 and pic 12) I started with a load or two of pit run (pit gravel about as cheap as it gets for gravel) After leveling it off, Top dress it with some crushed road gravel. As time goes on you will need to re-level but after a season goes past you should be set. One spot was really wet and it worked just fine there.. If its like a quargmire your in for alot of work do what the rest were saying ....

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2004-12-07          101792


Brokenarrow, in picture 12 the grade looks quite nice. Did you get it that flat with the box blade that is attached to your tractor? I have never used one before.I may have to get one.
I don't know about not having a barrier to keep the stone from mixing into the mud. I would imagine the stone will keep sinking over time and more and more will have to be added. ....

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2004-12-13          102186


If there is nowhere to drain rain water to, you might want t consider digging the middle out deeper and sloping the sides toward the middle. Then backfill with crushed stone sharp-edged stone will stay in palce better than natural tumbled gravel will have round shapes) Making the middle deeper allows the water to stay away from the load bearing areas where the tires are and also becomes an "reservoir" or shallow dry-well until it can soak into the ground. ....

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