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 | dkhaag
Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2 Indiana 
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2010-08-09 172923
Wanted opinions from you all. After several years of putting up with an old '52 8N, finally bought a new CK20 with FEL. I strongly considered the HST but got a real good deal on a standard shift. About 75% of use is mowing with little shifting. This seems to make the HST a bit less important. The other 25% will be with the loader. Does this seem like a reasonable decision? I have only used to mow with,so far, but am very happy with this tractor. Just trying to put to rest my transmission decision
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 | auerbach
Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2168 West of Toronto 
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2010-08-09 172924
I looked at that issue. (I was considering replacing my Yanmar with a Kioti but fixed it.) Conclusion: if you're going in and out of loader piles all day or have a weak left foot, get the fancy, otherwise the standard would save money and be one less thing to go wrong. ....
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| hardwood
Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3583 iowa
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2010-08-09 172925
DK;
Welcome to the form, your post is one of the topics that always brings on a lively discussion, synthetic oils might equal it tho.
First I know less than nothihg about a Kioti tractor so will speak only in general terms.
We don't quite come to blows here over gear vs. hydro, well maybe I and EW come close, but I'm not a fan of hydros in any tractor and I've ran them both big and small. Combines, large slow moving dozers, excavators, lawn mowere, yes, tractors no.
Again knowing nothing about a Kioti do they use a dry plate clutch or a wet powershift type clutch? Dry clutch plates do wear especially on heavy loader use and will require replacement in time, every year, no, not with 25% of the hours going to loader work, but sooner or later.
Modern hydros are pretty much bulletproof, they are designed to protect themselves from abuse. If your tractor uses a sliding gesr type transmission then gear grinding can occur in a hurried situation that wiil over an extended period cause enough damage to need repair. A bit of patience when using the tractor can eliminate the grinding tho.
If your tractor has a powershift type reverser for loader work then the gear grinding doesn't happen and not much maintenence will occcur above the hydros.
I've had compacts for a long time and wouldn't consider a hydro, but that's just my opinon. The number one issue is whethwer your tractor is a four wheel drive for loader use. No matter whether hydro, powershift, dry clutch, a compact using a loader without front wheel assist is a pretty helpless machine.
Frank. ....
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 | kthompson
Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5275 South Carolina
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2010-08-09 172946
I also welcome you here.
Now you own the manual transmission and want to have peace with the decision, OK. Boy did you make a great decision. No way should you have bought the HST. Did that help? :)
Did not see how much time in real hours you are talking about. If your 25% will be 10 hours solid of short back and forth FEL work think you may be disappointed. If it is more like 1 or 2 hours at the time with some distance between the scooping and dumping and that is like once per week think you will be fine. Just don't ride the clutch.
But congratulations on the step up. If you could steer and brake and clutch the 8N you should find the Kioti a walk in the park.
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 | earthwrks
Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 3853 Home Office in Flat Rock, Michigan
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2010-08-09 172967
Where Kenny's (KT) from it is called: "Coulda, woulda, shoulda, darnit" ....
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