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 02-04-2001, 10:19 Post: 23940
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 End plates and fancy back blades

I'm really sold on the use of end plates, tilt, angle, and offset on back blades, and have been beating that drum for years. Now I'm getting curious. I never hear from anyone else who uses these things. Am I the only one who uses a heavy blade with all of these features and especially the end plates?






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 02-04-2001, 16:45 Post: 23943
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your not the only one.i've been using one for the last thirty years.it's called a danusar.this was the first box blade my dad ever bought.i don't know how old it is ,but it's been around for as long as i can remember and i'll be 45 this year.ti's a standard 360 degree blade or you can put the side plates on and make it a box blade.it also has retractable scarifiers.they were built until the early 80's,but the cheaper box blades became so popular that people wouldn't spend the money to buy them.i did buy a couple of extra muhl boards a few years back to use as replacments to keep it usable for as long as i can.good luck






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 02-04-2001, 17:30 Post: 23944
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Well that's interesting, Charlie. Mine is a "Servis Rhino" - like yours it is an old timer. I have no idea how old. It was well used when I got it 20 years ago at a used tractor shop. I do know that it isn't anything like the lightweight blades made by the same company today. Before I started using it, there is no way I would have considered paying what a new one with these features cost. I also have a couple of modern lightweight blades, so I get to see the difference.
Now that I know how capable that it is, I would buy it again even if I had to go the cost of a new one. Someone must be making a similar blade, but if so, the dealers around here don't seem to stock them.
The various blade adjustments would be even better if they were hydraulically powered.....that just might end up being my summer implement project.






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 02-04-2001, 21:59 Post: 23947
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 End plates and fancy back blades

Yes, we have one like that too. Its a German Deutz 6' rear blade. It was bought along with 3 new German Deutz tractors, 2 of them 64 Hp and one being 24 HP, along with many other implements, all of them bering the Deutz name on them, back in 1969. It does not have side plates but it can be tilted 3 ways, horizontally, vertically and angled too.






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 02-05-2001, 00:41 Post: 23948
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Roger, how does your rear blade with side plates compare to a box scraper? It sound similar although I don't think box scrapers angle, and I use the box scarifiers quite a bit. What are the benefits of a rear blade over a box? How does the angling help? Thanks for your comments. JonB






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 02-05-2001, 05:17 Post: 23952
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Roger,
I was introduced to rear blades while working on a farm years ago. The blade we used had offset and tilt options. I found the offset to be invaluable for getting the material being bladed past the rear tires. When I purchased my compact last year I knew one project was going to be building a blade for it and offset was requirement. I finished the blade last week and just in time for some snow plowing. It has hydraulic offset with a neat little concept I came up with on my own that I will try to describe since I think you will find it interesting. The offset is the type where the main beam pivots between the three point hitch pins. On the right side of the pivot is where the cylinder mounts. On the left side I ran a telescoping link from the three point mounts back to the blade parallel with the main beam. The telescoping lind has holes for the different angles of the blade. This way I set the angle of the blade with the link then as the cylinder offsets the beam the blade stays at the same angle with respect to the tractor. I know that was wordy so if I can I will take a picture and post if. Randy






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 02-05-2001, 06:19 Post: 23956
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Don't have one, but I think listening to Roger's drum has sold me on the idea, especially a blade with hydraulic adjustments. If I do much more roadwork, I might become sold on the price too. However, I use my box to spread and compact gravel. I'm not sure how doing those operations with a blade compares to a box. For spreading (using a hydraulic top-link) I find it's real handy to drive along, shorten the link to start cutting at a high spot, lengthen it to stop cutting and drag a full box to a low spot. Then, lengthening the link some more starts spreading the box contents. Of course, things don't work quite this cleanly in practice, but it's still a real handy technique that I use a lot. For compacting, I tilt the box down so it rides on the back of its rear cutter. If a good blade with hydraulics does this sort of thing reasonably well, then I'm really sold.






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 02-05-2001, 10:16 Post: 23961
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Roger, I also believe that a rear blade cannot be too heavy. In fact when I made mine it was based on a thirty year old blade marketed at the time by Ford. For general blade work I would (and do) take a properly set-up rear blade over a box-blade every day of the week. The main difference I put into mine was in the hydraulic adjustments, there are two hydraulic cylinders mounted 'in the direction of travel' 1 adjusts the offset, the other the angle of the blade, then there is one vertical cyl. which adjusts the horiz. position of the blade. The tricky part is the 'end-plates', mine are curved to match the mould board and hyrauliclly actuated so as to open out into 18" extensions to the mouldboard, this way if I am doing final grading or cleaning light snows, I can run with it as a 8' straight blade, a 6.6' blade with one end, or a 5' box. It works very well, and is operated by a 4 way joystick (with float position for 'twist') and a 'switchable' 2 way valve for independant control of the 'wings'. Dead weight as ready to work, 800 pounds. Ability to STOP a 40 hp 4wd compact tractor when it bites in, IMPRESSIVE, Laughing out loud..... Best of luck.






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 02-05-2001, 17:53 Post: 23969
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WOW, that's sounds like one aweseome setup! Any chance you've got pictures? Of the blade AND of the hydraulic setup on your tractor Wink yeah right






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 02-06-2001, 06:01 Post: 23978
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Murph, you never cease to amaze me. Sounds like the ultimate blade and I'm sure a manufacturer like Woods would love to see it and maybe add it to their line. Could be some patent money for you. I'd also like to see a photo.






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