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 11-25-2000, 09:02 Post: 21792
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I am thinking of buying a plow. Will my 2710 handle a two bottom plow, or should I get a one bottom plow? The soil has been tilled before.






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 11-25-2000, 10:36 Post: 21797
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Ken, it will depend on the texture or type of soil you have, what size plows you get, etc., but I'd say the simple answer to your question is that you only want a single bottom plow. I have a black clay loam and there's no way my B2710 could pull a two bottom plow through it. I have about a 9000 square foot garden area that I've been tilling, but this Fall I turned it with the turning plow to get deeper before tilling it again, and while that went pretty well, I'd still occasionally have to raise that 14" moldboard a little to prevent bogging down and spinning the wheels.






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 11-25-2000, 10:46 Post: 21799
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I would go with a one bottom plow. Two reasons, for sure under any condition it will pull it. Two is it's cheaper. Do you already have a tiller? That is a must for gardening.






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 11-25-2000, 10:52 Post: 21800
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Thanks for the input. No, I do not have a tiller, just getting started, and only have a disc harrow now. Do you use some sort of cultivator, etc, for the weeds?






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 11-25-2000, 10:54 Post: 21802
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Thanks, I believe my soil is similar to yours. How do you control the weeds in a garden that large?






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 11-25-2000, 11:00 Post: 21803
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Ken planning a garden and the use of a tractor takes planning. The tractor for row crops needs more spacing within the rows to fit the tractor thru. Normally for that I recommend a walk behind rear tine tiller with forward and reverse tine mode. The hand tiller would be used for cultivating unless size is not critical. The disc harrow in my area won't cut enough to do any type of a suitable job. A machiine that might also help you is a small tiller like the Mantis which I use for my mechanical weeder. It's light and extremely portable and does a great job.






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 11-25-2000, 16:23 Post: 21816
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Ken, I live far enough south that we don't have a whole lot of really cold weather, so every time it rains, even in the winter, as soon as it's dry enough, I run over the garden with the tiller again. I started out with a walk behind tiller also for cultivating and weed control between the rows, but quickly decided that was too much like work, so I sold the walk behind. Until this year I was working the garden with a B7100, planted the rows 5' apart and could still drive down between the rows with the tractor and 40" tiller. But this past year, after getting the wider B2710, I planted my rows 4' apart, and cultivated with a 6 point cultivator plow (6" field sweeps) by straddling the rows with the tractor until the plants got too big to do that. I do very little work with a hoe; don't like that kind of work at all, and I've used no commercial fertilizer, herbicides, or insecticides on my garden; just keep the soil worked enough to eliminate any grass or weeds.






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 11-26-2000, 10:55 Post: 21836
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I don't know the hp of a 2710, but my 855 is 24hp and it puuls a 1-14 graet in mellow ground, how ever when I get into brome grass & gumbo it's aload for it but it does pull it with out slipping. Like art posted, better small than big for ground engageing equipment






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Ihave a B2400 (24hp) and I'm going to be extending my garden over the winter and spring. My Christmas present to me this year will be a 48"/50" tiller (the wife doesn't know yet) but I'd like to know if it would be better to try to plow the ground before tilling or go straight to the tiller. The ground itself isn't too heavy but there is a 3" thick hardpan layer about 6" below the surface which breaks up into rocks when I use the walk behind tiller and makes it pretty hard work. Any help or advice would be appreciated before I start.






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Dana, the B2710 is 27 hp; not a lot more than your John Deere.

Frank, I've done a lot of garden preparation both ways. The first couple of years, I just used the tiller, and made multiple passes until it got deep enough, but I've found it works much better and faster to tear up the ground first, then use the tiller. I prefer my little "turning plow" or "moldboard" although the double buster works pretty well, too, and I've read some discussions by others who simply use the "scarifiers" or "ripper teeth" on their box blades.






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