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 11-26-2002, 22:39 Post: 45433
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My wife and I recently bought a new BX2200 and I was wondering about auxiliary hydraulic controls. From what I understand, and correct me if Iím wrong, they have a 4 way joy stick and a 3 way control available. I know the 4 way is for the FEL but Iím not even sure what the 3 way control is for or where is goes. There is also an empty slot in the right fender that has a hydraulic cylinder on it. I would have to assume that this is for an 2 way auxiliary hydraulic control. Is it possible to have mutable hydraulic controls on the BX2200? The only reason I ask, is I like the idea of having an auxiliary hydraulic connection for rear attachments but I donít want mess up the ability to add an additional 4 way for a FEL next spring. My old tractor has them both front and rear. They have really come in handy for hydraulic angling and for a hydraulic top link. I can also see many possibilities for them in the future. Has anyone heard of doing this?






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 11-27-2002, 06:23 Post: 45439
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Dwight, you are nearly right on this but the 3way valve is only for the loader on BX, B-series and L's. The 4 way valve is if you want a snowblower or blade with hydraulic turn on those units. The BX offers the 3 way and 4 way valve, don't get confused as both are a 4 position. They do not offer an extra valve for you tractor yet that will go next to your other lever for your hitch. I do believe they are working on one for it.






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 11-27-2002, 09:54 Post: 45456
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This is an issue that has confused me.
When I got the BX22 I wanted the manual angle front blade. Kubota said it required the 4 position loader control valve.
OK who am I to argue? Lets order it.
Then they told me they donít make them that way, but maybe the dealer could find one and retrofit it.
OK, whatever works.
So when it all comes together, I find that the manual front blade goes up and down, thatís all, just up and down, and uses the FEL dump/rollback circuit leaving the raise/lower circuit unused.

I scratch my head, knowing there are things I donít completely understand, like needing a more complicated valve to run a simpler functioning attachment and then mounting hoses to the joystick/valve so that side-to-side movement equals up and down function.

Oh well, must be one of lifeís little mysteries.

Then I found a passage in the ownerís manual that says the difference between the 3 position valve and 4 position valve is the addition of a two stage (two speed) dump cycle.

So now I am really confused. What am I missing Art?






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 11-27-2002, 10:14 Post: 45457
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Mark, do you have a float type detent in the right movement in the valve? If so you have a four way valve according to my service rep. otherwise look under the valve on the mount and see if it says, BX2013 on a serial number tag and if it does it is a three way if it says BX2014 than it is a four way. Any way I look at it it should be using the up and down to give you float on your blade. These are the codes for what you would have needed. The price difference is 88. retail.






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 11-27-2002, 14:22 Post: 45468
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Art, thanks. It does have a float detent on the far right and it is the 2014. I didn't know I had that feature. Thanks!






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 11-27-2002, 19:08 Post: 45482
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Thanks for the information. That has shed some light those concerns but I would have thought that since there was an empty place for a the right hand auxiliary control that the unit would have been available.






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I saw photos of a United Kingdom BX2200 that had a hydraulic dump grass catcher and hydraulic dump trailer controlled by a lever in our(U.S.) open slot. You could use the hydraulic output block from the BX22 to connect another control valve.






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 11-28-2002, 07:57 Post: 45496
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Terminology doesn't make much difference as long as everybody knows what is being talked about. There does seem to be a terminology issue here. I've heard people distinguishing 2, 3 or more way valves by counting the number of ports rather than the number of operating positions of a control lever.

I got curious about the terminology and referred to the glossary in my new JD Fundamentals of Service manual for hydraulics. The glossary says it's the number of connecting ports on a spooling valve section. I'm not sure how that definition squares with this discussion, but I think I'm going to get good service from these manuals and I'm not even a JD owner.






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 11-28-2002, 08:36 Post: 45501
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For the sake of clarity and accurate speech, Kubota refers to their product as having a 3 position or a 4 position valve. I have changed my post to reflect the correct terminology. I don't know about unused ports, not sure where that goes.






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 11-30-2002, 08:19 Post: 45542
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Mark, not all in this beautiful country is black and white, thank you. In olden days we even had one way valves, another words, they would only go one way and gravity would be used to go the other way just releasing the oil. These systems only use one hose and of coarse are cheaper. Many people still use this type of a system by just venting the other end of the cylinder to allow air in and out. The two ways were introduced to increase down pressure on the machine such as disc harrows to give the true full weight of the machine to cut better. They do use two hoses for this one. The number of hoses basically has nothing to do with the number of functions of the valve.






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