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 06-19-2003, 15:37 Post: 58015
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where can i buy a slip clutch for my jd4210 pto. the one at tsc did not fit the 1 3/8 shaft. {$96.00} had to return it. i ask at jd did not know da????






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 06-19-2003, 17:39 Post: 58024
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I believe slip clutches are to be put on the implement, brush cutter, tiller, are such.






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 06-19-2003, 20:02 Post: 58027
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Plots1 is correct the slip clutch does not go on the tractor PTO. It goes on the implement.






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 06-25-2003, 07:35 Post: 58254
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o.k. now we know where the slip clutch goes. need a overrunning pto coupler for the 4210 pto 1-3/8 "6" spline shaft ???? nothing at TSC must have a push pin connection on the coupler because, no hole in the spline shaft.






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 06-26-2003, 06:51 Post: 58341
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Over-running clutches were mostly found on older geared tractors that had transmission driven PTO's. Most newer tractors with TX driven PTO's have internal over-running clutches. I bleieve that is generally true at least since the mid-80's and maybe earlier. My midd-80's Ford has live pto so it's not an issue but the standard non-synchronized TX does have an internal clutch.

If the tractor has HST or live PTO, or if it does have a TX driven PTO and internal clutch then an external clutch probably is not an issue. The use of one also would defeat any PTO brake present.






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 06-26-2003, 18:18 Post: 58395
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TomG,
My Kioti DK has independant PTO. Independant PTO's also have a PTO brake.
I installed an over-running clutch to save wear on the PTO brake when shutting down implements(mostly my 6' brush mower).
The over-running clutch lets the mower rachet to a stop instead of the brake trying to stop it quickly.






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 06-27-2003, 06:29 Post: 58412
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Yep very true. From all I've heard I think I'd find most pto brakes extraordinarily aggravating and defeating one (safety issues aside) sure would be tempting. Of course, a person should keep in mind that they'd likely be defeating any insurance at the same time.

Seems like more time should have been put into engineering the things. After all, how safe is a safety feature so unfriendly that people are inclined to disable it? I suppose the safest tractor of all might be one with no moving parts. One would be great for a driveway ornament.

The link below shows such an ornament at a near by crafts gallery. I think it is a McCormick-Deering and I'm reasonably certain there are no moving parts there.






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 06-28-2003, 06:22 Post: 58465
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Wolbert, I know what you have done and why, I just wouldn't have done it knowing you just added another moving part to fail. I've seen more of these failed then the pto brakes.






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 06-28-2003, 13:28 Post: 58485
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Art,
I felt the over-running clutch was worth a try.
Once my warrenty runs out I do all my own maitainance and the longer I can make the PTO brake last before needing replaced the happier I will be !!
If the over-running clutch doen't work out I can just take it off and run without it,so far so good !






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 06-28-2003, 14:51 Post: 58487
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OK, all this talk about PTO brakes brings up a question. My JD 4610 eHydro has a PTO brake (according to the OM). When I disengage the PTO, after using the brush cutter, the cutter will slowly spin down. So if the cutter spins down, where does the PTO brake come in?






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