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 04-17-2015, 23:20 Post: 192580
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 01 Gator HXP 4x4 cranks will not start has fuel spark

Hopefully someone can help me with an 01 gator i am having serious issues with it.I have checked fuel,fire compression and the crank sensor all good i was going to check the voltage regulator as well as the cdi box or something like that but not sure how or what specs are suppose to be any input at all would be helpful at this point!






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 04-18-2015, 02:17 Post: 192581
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 01 Gator HXP 4x4 cranks will not start has fuel spark

Sounds to me like this piece of equipment has been sitting for a LONG time. Try draining the fuel tank and carb. Refuel the gas tank with FRESH ethanol FREE gas. Then try dribbling just a small amount down the carb. throat, then attempt the start. You may have to do this a few times to get the engine to start. In the event the engine does NOT start, try removing the carb. fuel bowl or back fire solenoid (if equipped)and spray a good dose of brake or carb. cleaner into the fuel bowl through the back fire solenoid hole. THEN attempt the fuel dribble to the carb. and attempt a start. Again this may take a few attempts. Once you get the engine running, DO NOT shut it off. I recommend dumping a full can or at least a half can of Berryman's B12 carb. cleaner and run the entire batch of gas through the carb. to clean out the gum and crud that built up while in storage. Ask me how I know.






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 04-18-2015, 10:42 Post: 192588
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 01 Gator HXP 4x4 cranks will not start has fuel spark

I had a simialr problem. For starters, you need to know that Gators are "cold blooded". What the experts tell me -- that means they don't just jump out of bed and want to get to work. Once they start, they fart a little, grumble and grone, a lot of shake rattle and roll -- and than finally after a warm up period -- they will start to behave. NOW -- that describes a good one!

So if yours has sat for a while, a lot of varnish has built up, etc. I share many of Chiefs thoughts. Up here in the tundra (Wisconsin). we frequently use either in an aerosol can(sold as starting fluid). Mny a time a reluctant participant has been encouraged to join the working class by blasting some either into the carb's throat or into the air cleaner. You will probably at some point need to rebuild the carb

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 04-18-2015, 13:47 Post: 192589
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 01 Gator HXP 4x4 cranks will not start has fuel spark

i have taken the carb apart and cleaned it really good, and the fuel is new in it and i have sprayed carb cleaner in it and all it does after about thirty cranks is backfire and that doesnt even happen everytime it acts like its out of time. The problem with me thinking that is i done a compression test and it was right at 100 I have been told to check the cdi box but not sure how to do that and i was going to also check the voltage regulator as well any ideas? At this point Im lost so an overview its getting Fuel fire and compression






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 04-18-2015, 16:25 Post: 192590
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 01 Gator HXP 4x4 cranks will not start has fuel spark

I suggest that you try to narrow down the problem -- is it fuel, spark, timing, etc. The either cans work well for this. Spray some into the air cleaner, or carb throat and than try to start it. If it runs, or at least sputters -- than that points toward the carb (or fuel). If, with either being sucked into the engine and it just do something, than that points toward spark (ignition)

You mentioned voltage regulator -- as I recall -- I did replace the regulator on mine. But as I recall, it wasn't cheap!

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 04-20-2015, 06:38 Post: 192602
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 01 Gator HXP 4x4 cranks will not start has fuel spark

Sounds like ignition module to me. Down by the starter with one plug going into it. Pricey...............






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 04-22-2015, 19:09 Post: 192633
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 01 Gator HXP 4x4 cranks will not start has fuel spark

are you talking about the coil which fires the plug or the cdi box i know the coil is good, it fires a thirty thousandths gap.if the ignition module is the cdi box does anyone know how to check it i have heard they have diodes in them but , back to gatoraider. the only thing down by the starter is the cdi box or thats what i was told its called i cant find any wiring diagrams or manuals for it i even have every part number on every component on the gator any ideas on how to check or an online wiring diagram i dnt have to pay for






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 04-22-2015, 19:48 Post: 192634
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 01 Gator HXP 4x4 cranks will not start has fuel spark

What you were told was a cdi box is an ignition module.






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 04-26-2015, 17:28 Post: 192658
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if what i am talking about is the ignition module where exactly is it and do you know how to check it and possibly a pic. because where the spark plug wire is connected to has resistance and am assuming that is called a coil on this then that goes to the pulse ring behind the crank and it has a sensor on it i am assuming is the same as a crank sensor and that is magnetic and has an ac voltage i cant remember exactly how much i just know a hall effect sensor produces ac and is magnetic all the ones i have ever seen when go bad no longer do then those wires go to what i was told to be a voltage regulator which is on the frame above and behind of the crank sensor that i wasnt sure how to check but it does have a dc voltage reading then those wires go down under the coil (or what produces the voltage to the plug) and on the bottm of the frame under the coil and and almost completely under the engine and that little box is what everyone has been telling me the cdi box is but i dont know how test it and everyone is telling me when they go bad it acts like its out of time the thing is i HAVE 100 compression, i have a spark that jumps 30 thousanths or better, i have fuel as well and will not hit a lick with starting fluid any ideas people






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 04-26-2015, 17:54 Post: 192659
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 01 Gator HXP 4x4 cranks will not start has fuel spark

What people are telling you is a cdi box is actually an ignition module. No way that I know of to test an ignition module. But because you have compression, spark and fuel tells me the module is bad. I think you said that it tried once or twice when you shut it off, kind of acting like it is out of time. You are getting spark, but at the wrong time. The module handles the timing also. You can have compression and fuel, but if you don't have spark at the right time they don't do anything for you. Bad thing about the module is it's electrical, costs 300.00 and you can't return it.






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