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 07-09-2004, 07:12 Post: 90401
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CUTers,

Anybody have problems with an automatic tranny in a 2002 era Dodge Ram 1/2 ton pickup? My buddy's Ram (4x4, 360, off-road package) gave a trouble code that the dealer said was transmission related; they recommend fluid change and a solenoid replacement to start; if the code recurs then they say it needs a new transmission. So Sad Out of warranty, of course.

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 07-09-2004, 07:54 Post: 90402
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Bill, I don't know if it's the same problem but one of the kids that works for me had a problem with his, they wen't around and around trying to nail it down.

If they reset all the codes and replaced the fluid, filter everything was fine, or so they thought. Then the next time he pulled his fishing boat the fluid smelled a little burnt and the tranny would get REAL hot, even with a cooler. The dealer said the only thing left was a rebuild.

He took it to another shop who said the problem wasn't the tranny at all, it was his trailer wiring! It seems there is a sensor that looks for 12v. in the brake light circuit, assuming you are stopping it unlocks the torque converter to allow it to slip. If there is any corrosion, or a short (or even partial short) in the trailer harness that allows 12v. to back-feed the brake circuit, even small amounts of power will cause the sensor to unlock the converter.

They put a new trailer plug on the truck and installed a small rectifier to prevent back-feeds and the problem was solved.

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 07-09-2004, 18:11 Post: 90463
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Hi, Murf.
This sounds close enough to his problem that it would be worth a look. The fluid supposedly does have a burnt smell. He's never been happy with the way it shifts; on any kind of incline, the truck is constantly looking for the right gear (or locking and unlocking the torque convertor). The dealership has been telling him all along that it was normal.

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 07-10-2004, 07:21 Post: 90491
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Fascinating possible solution from Murf! I don't know if it's the whole solution though. I hear that burnt smelling TX oil is a bad sign.

The engine rebuilder for my '89 F150 pointed out that the TX oil smelled burnt and that it the TX did any damage to the engine he wouldn't warranty the engine work. I suspect he greatly over-stated the case, but at least he wasn't trying to sell me TX work.

Maybe it's an issue here. You'd think if the problem existed then manufacturers should be aware of the possible results of standard trailer wiring and provide warnings and dealers should be aware of it.






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 07-10-2004, 07:32 Post: 90494
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Hey Bill, it wouldn't happen to still be under warranty, would it? 7 years or 70,000 miles?

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 07-10-2004, 07:37 Post: 90495
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Hey, Billy.
No, not still in warranty. I don't remember if you had an option that year or if it was the only standard warranty, but his is 3 yr/36000 miles.

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 07-12-2004, 04:54 Post: 90605
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What is it with those Dodge trucks? A friend of mine has gone threw 3 tranny's with his 2001 3/4 ton Ram. 2 were under warrenty & the 3 rd one out of his pocket. He finally traded it in for a diffrent make.






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 07-12-2004, 05:44 Post: 90606
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Some of this new electronic stuff I guess we just have to accept, but what was wrong with a dodge truck like I owned from 1975 (new) till 2003? It was a D300 one ton with the 360 engine and the 727 automatic. It had a livestock and grain box on it with an electric hoist that worked flawlessley. I paid 4000.00 for it outright/ truck, box, hoist, whole smackeroo in 75. That old tonner never drew an easy breath, 90% grunt work. The 360 engine never gave up, the 727 tranny finnaly went out in 2001, a local shop gave it a complete overhaul and a two year warranty for 375.00. So I question why we need all of this electronic follishness when the old "Tonner" as we allways called it gave service like that? Frank.






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It's funny how things go around in a circle.

A few years back everybody thought electronics were going to be the way of the future for vehicles, and I suspect in cars that lead an easy life, they are probably a good thing. In a truck that works for a living however, it's another story, especially if some of that work involves plowing snow doing ice control.

We ran F-350's for years, but recently, with the price of trucks edging up every year, we have been switching to 3 ton trucks. They are still mostly built under the 'manual control is better' and 'it has to go a million miles' philosophies. The latest one, a Hino conventional is a dream to drive, rides just like a 1 ton dually, with a 220hp. inline 6 coupled to an Allison 5 spd (with over-drive) it really gets up and goes too. I put a 12' aluminum dump box on it. It was within a few thousand dollars of a new F-350 in price, but is twice the truck.

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 07-12-2004, 18:19 Post: 90686
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That's a cab over style right Murf? They are becoming popular around here also. I was contiplating on the Mitsubishi HG on my last purchase. Kinda sorry I didnt end up buying it.






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