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Since I started this thread, let me add a suggestion for the webmaster. First let me say that I agree this is a great discussion board. Now my suggestion, how about just one forum for the TC35/40/45 series? Basically they're all the same tractor. Would that be easier?

Why no TC35 40 45 message forum
New Holland Tractors
Replies 19 Post by Michigander

Hey Jeff, That is one nice looking unit!

cold weather and TC35D
New Holland Tractors
Replies 8 Post by Michigander

Jeff, I'm sure the 16LA loader is longer but the extra reach is handy if you are loading a trailer or filling in a hole. I was accustom to driving my old Ford 9N in and out of the shed and the loader on my TC40D makes you pay attention to how quickly you turn when backing out. I have a couple of fresh scrapes on my door frame to try to cover up this spring! I think engineers did a great job on the 16LA loader. I really like the way it mimics the sloping hood line of the tractor. Even if it doesn't match the JD lift, there is more than enough for me.

Help choosing between TC35D and L3010
New Holland Tractors
Replies 25 Post by Michigander

Good idea. I'll give my dealer a call to see if he can find a valve for me! Thanks

Operating Temp
New Holland Tractors
Replies 20 Post by Michigander

I too have been considering putting in a pond. Lots of good stuff in this thread. I only have a couple things to add. First, Regarding the permits, check around to see if anyone else in your area has put in a pond. This should save some time running around to different agencies. Here in MI we have the Drain Commission, Soil Conservation board, Township, etc. One big taboo is to alter any existing drain or waterway (creek) Second, I discovered that a local developer would come in and dig my pond (similar size) for free if he could have the top soil and fill. I have a TC40D with a Kelley hoe. While it is fun to dig for a few hours now and then, I also realized this big of a project would take some of the fun out of it. It was usefull for digging test holes to see how well they would hold water. My issue was with only 7' of digging depth with my hoe, I would have to dig the whole thing out then get down in the hole and dig some more to get to 10' deep. (below winter freeze) My test holes fill almost instantly to with a foot of the top with water. Trading the fill in exchange for digging the pond out seems like a good deal to me.

Digging farm pond
Tractor Projects
Replies 21 Post by Michigander

Richard,
Ya, I think Johnny ended up with a 54,55,56,57....Cadillac. You might have a hard time getting the loader bucket in your lunch pail though. You are right, sending the 6% sales tax down a rat hole takes some of the fun outta buying a tractor. The prices are high enough without that. As a matter of fact, it made me decide to become an official 'farmer'. I have a few acres and couple cows. Not only did I save the sales tax, the accountant says I can deduct all sorts of things. Fuel, tools, gloves, etc. I am going to lose money like all the other farmers do. It's almost like getting a raise. But back to the tractor issues, I opted for the larger, TC40D as I needed, er wanted a bit larger unit for my 'farm'. Got it with a FEL and a used 3pt hoe. It cost way more than I was planning to spend but so far, I have had lots of fun scraping snow. I use low range with the throttle barely above idle so I don't get done too quickly. Can't wait til spring. Anyway, I've gotten way off the topic but if you're interested in the other reasons I ended up at the TC40D, we can start a new thread. Good luck with your contemplations... PS: You can check my spread at the link

BoomerTC33D
New Holland Tractors
Replies 7 Post by Michigander

Looks like these are tillers that came overseas with the grey market tractors. Most of the dealers selling grey market tractors have a bunch of them laying around. (like in the picture) I have seen them as low as a couple hundred bucks but didn't investigate so I don't know the size, condition, etc. Parts would have to be a big question mark. You may want to buy two tillers so you have your own parts inventory.

These tillers any good - with URL this time
Operating and Attachments
Replies 6 Post by Michigander

I am making a move from a front mount JD 72 inch to a 3pt rear deck on my TC40D. After looking at the 3pt decks, I saw a rear discharge 91 inch Caroni at Agri-Supply. It has 5 blades instead of 3 like all the competitive units (Woods, Befco, Rhino) Seems like this would be better. Anyone have any comments on this unit? The specs indicate that the blade tip speed is about the same. I am concerned that the grass may be bent over after driving on it and want to get as much lift from the mower deck as possible.

going from belly mower to rear mower
New Holland Tractors
Replies 12 Post by Michigander

Sounds like the subsoiler won't hurt anything. Anyone know how far apart should I run the strips? Do I make a crossing pattern? I was afraid that with the ground being hard that I a core aerator would not penetrate very deeply without a bunch of weight. Although doesn't cost too much to rent them so maybe I will do both. My lawn could use some aerating as well. I was hoping to pull a single shank subsoiler with my NH TC40D. Maybe this will give it a workout.

Subsoiler in pasture
Parts and Repair
Replies 14 Post by Michigander

Bob, Things are great here is SW Michigan. Lots of snow but that's not all bad.
As far as the NH strategy, I didn't mean to imply that I agree with it either. Just guessing on what it might be. You would certainly think they would have a deluxe model with either transmission option. Seems the logical method to attract the most buyers but I'm sure Marketing Guru thinks they have us all figured out and decided to limit the choices. If I were going to buy a shuttle transmission unit it probably would not have been a NH because I did want a stripped down unit. I looked very closely at the Kioti DK45 with a shuttle. Very nice unit for the money. Under $20K with FEL. I am surprised they have not become more popular. Has any one else looked at them?

New Boomer Options Availability Needed
New Holland Tractors
Replies 8 Post by Michigander

Steve, Jim has some sound advice. I think many of us started shopping with the same thoughts that you have only to discover that Decent and $7,000 don't normally belong in the same sentence. The next thing you know, you are looking in the 10-12 range then $15K range especially if you want a FEL. I ended up driving a new one and now it is parked in my barn. I shopped for several months and even looked at the grey market tractors. Many of the used units were priced so close to a new one that I bit the big bullet. Or it bit me.

I did notice that traderonline.com has quite a few used tractors advertised. You may want to watch there too. Good Luck!

Tractors in the 5000- 7000 Range
Garden and Landscape
Replies 11 Post by Michigander

Let me put my 2 cents worth in as my new TC40D was just delivered last week. First, to correct Tom, the Hydro on the TC40D is "dual power" meaning you have 4 four/reverse ranges. A shift on the fly button is on the loader joystick the jump from turtle to hare in each hydro range. Secondly, there are other differences between the two models besides the transmission. Mostly in aesthetics. ie: no wrap-around headlights, no deck mat, etc on the TC40. It makes the TC40 seem like the ecomony model. Nothing that effects pulling performance just creature comforts. Obviously I chose the D model and I love it so far. Plowed lots of Michigan snow!

Hydrostatic vs 12 x 12 SSS tran
New Holland Tractors
Replies 16 Post by Michigander

That is a great price. I was getting quotes of $16K for the same unit. If I could have gotten the same price you did, I would have bought one too. I was actually leaning toward the DK45 w/FEL though, much larger but $19,500. Very nice tractor! Shuttle worked great. The salesman worked with both a NH dealer and the Kioti dealer. He convinced me that the NH resale value would be higher and I ended up buying a TC40D, Hydro w/FEL for $20,500. I like it alot but still gawk at the Kioti when I drive past the dealer's lot. I think they are coming out with some new models, DK40, DK35, etc to match the styling of the DK45.

Kioti 3504 DK45 vs JD NH
Kioti Tractors
Replies 4 Post by Michigander

Terry,
Curious why you are trading. Especially to move down in HP. Do you just want a different tractor? Need the supersteer? I have a TC40D (no SS)but part of the purchase decision was that it was much cheaper than the 4600.

TC40D deal
New Holland Tractors
Replies 7 Post by Michigander

Jerry, You are doing exactly what I was planning. Does your loader bale spear hook to the bucket or did you remove the bucket to mount the spear.

Thanks all for your replies.

Bale Spear on Loader
Loaders Back Hoes
Replies 9 Post by Michigander

I have pricing of $21,000 for the same unit but without SS

TC40D price from local dealer
New Holland Tractors
Replies 3 Post by Michigander

The 10 reasons are great. The only problem is that now my wife thinks if she had the 1987 Simpliciy, things would be great!

NH TC40D vs JD 4400
Articulated Tractors
Replies 20 Post by Michigander

I think I have settled on a TC40D for $21K, FEL, Turf Tires, Hydro. JD 4500 only offered the Power Sync Reverser in its 40HP tractor. $3000 to go to the 4600 with hydro. Doesn't seem worth the bucks.

Price of NH TC35
New Holland Tractors
Replies 11 Post by Michigander

I have been pricing them and the 4400 & FEL was $20,500, the 4500 was $21,000. The larger frame on the 4500 boosts the FEL lift from 1240# to 2400#.

JD 4500 question
John Deere Tractors
Replies 5 Post by Michigander

I don't know about everyone else's experience but the NH dealer has been much more conversational when discussing what unit I may want for what I'll use it for. The JD dealer(s) have been somewhat abrupt. From the first conversation with the NH sales guy, he was offering to drop one off for me to try out, etc. JD dealers never hinted at it. Even the JD dealer where I spent ten grand on a mower two years ago. Pricing has been close but it seems the NH dealer wants the business and will probably give better service. Anyone else having similar responses?

Boomer price search
New Holland Tractors
Replies 18 Post by Michigander