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B2110 B2100 B2150 manual - are these any good v B7100 HST

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biffoboy
Join Date: Jan 2008
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2008-12-07          158437


Hello, not sure if this model B2110 is generally available but it is a 2007 21hp tractor with a manual gearbox.

I use at the moment a B7100 HST for mainly grass cutting (3 acres) and towing a trailer. There are another 2 acres which eventually I will cut too. The land has a few inclines, one quite steep and the B7100 just about makes this. So although the B7100 is very rugged I'm thinking of upgrading to the B2110 and have the offer of one just over a year old with less than 300 hours on it.
I have to say that I have grown used to the HST gearchange and find it so easy to use although all the cars I drive are manual gearboxes.

So 2 questions:

Will a manual be almost as easy to use and maybe a little more rugged?

Will the upgrade from 17HP (B7100) to a 21HP (B2110) make much difference?

It did occurr to me that as the B7100 is from the 1980's that it's power output may be an amount less now than it started with, so the difference may be bigger than the numbers show.

A last question, does anyone have any experience of this model B2110 (which may be a B2100?)

Thank you very much for any input

Jamie

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hardwood
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2008-12-07          158438


Jamie; You don't say much else about the tractor, but you are only asking about the transmission difference. Is the manual more rugged? Probably not, most hydros are pretty bullet proof anymore, any less rugged, again probbaly not. I've driven CUT's with hydros and personally never liked them so four tractors later I still have a gear drive and when I update again it will be another gear without hesitation. Enjoy your day. Frank. ....

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B2110 B2100 B2150 manual - are these any good v B7100 HST

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earthwrks
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2008-12-07          158439


I have a 33HP hydro and a skid steer that is hydro. I'd never go back to a gear. Of course, I do alot of back and forth work so a hydro makes it quick and easy---and fun to work. ....

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bvance
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2008-12-07          158443


Jamie,

You say the B7100 "just about makes it" up the hill. What do you mean by that? Do you mean that it won't go up and over the hill? Does it power out? Hard to imagine. Does it spin out? Is your current tractor 4WD?

I would think that any hill a 4WD tractor powers out on, would be too dangerous to climb anyway for fear of flipping over on you.

I have had my HST BX power out in some situations, but only when it is in high range. Never has it powered out when in low range. It will always spin the tires before it powers out.

I prefer a HST transmission, as I beleive most on this site do, however there are a few that still prefer a gear driven tractor. And get a 4WD, never go for a 2WD.

Brian ....

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biffoboy
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2008-12-07          158451


Thanks for all that, I'll try to fill in the gaps a little.

I'm from the UK but have this tractor at a cottage we have in France, so maybe the model number does tie up with US models?

The ground is fairly open but we have planted quite a few specimen trees plus a small orchard, so there is a little to-ing and fro-ing, the HST is a dream for that. So the question about the manual gearbox was really whether it so much more work than the auto and whether it takes a lot more time to make frequent back and forward operations. Usage of a stick gearbox is not an issue at all.

The B7100HST does not like the steep incline, I'll guess it's maybe 20% so not dangerous but steep. It has a mid mounted 60" 3 blade Kubota grass cutter which appears to use a fair amount of power? As the tractor gets properly warm, after maybe an hour, the power drops off gradually, although not completely. I must say though that the power up the incline does not give me a lot of confidence even when cold. The wheels do not spin out unless it's damp.
It's a 2wd but with a diff lock, but spinning wheels isn't the problem, it's the power to climb the incline.

The original question still is will a much newer B2110 (with 4wd) be so much better, if only for the power increase and on occassion for the 4wd. I haven't seen this tractor yet so don't know how well they are built compared to the older ones which I think are remarkable. Also there is the fact that spending a whole lot more money at the moment can only be justified if a new tractor will give a much superior perfomance.

Sorry this is such a long reply, but trying to give you guys all the information, andd thanks again.

Jamie
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2008-12-07          158455


biffo, more power and four wheel drive will win out every time. I have driven my 4wd New Holland on such steep embankments in a pond I was digging that the acid in the battery leaked out. Now that's steep. I have never had or driven a Kubota but they make exceptional equipment. But you may want to stick with a hydro. ....

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