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kthompson
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2006-10-10          135824


I am considering an IH 5100 grain drill. Totally new to grain drills. It is suppose to be 8 foot wide with 7 1/2 spacing. In very good condition for just over a $1,000.

Want to use it for wheat, oats, soybeans and peanuts. Understand no grain drill works with corn. Have been using planters and broadcast depending on crop.

All thoughts appreciated.




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Art White
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2006-10-10          135835


Ken those are good drills! That is a little narrow in width for today's farm market which is why the price might be that low but ideal for you. There was a double disc option as well as what's called a combo with a fertilizer bin. There is a different set of gears for drills used here to plant soybeans here in NY I'm not familiar with your plant populations. There also was different grass seed locations both front and rear as well as a low rear. In the low rear position a brome grass seeder atachment was another option. ....


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kthompson
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2006-10-11          135856


Thanks Art,

Saw it late yesterday. Really looks good. Was surprised to see it has a mechanical lift rather than hyd. For my use I like the narrower width.

At some time the sight windows got paint on them. I think I read in another line where you mention a cleaner that might remove the paint without damage to such. ....


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Art White
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2006-10-12          135888


Ken that is a rare one with mechanical lift! We haven't had a request for one like that in years other then from a antique tractor lover about 15 years ago. If you want it could be converted as those drills were nearly the same from a 510,5100,5300 just some different decals and a little difference in the sheet metal for cosmetics. Not knowing exactly what paint was used you might have some luck with a soft rubbing compound to clean the plastic but otherwise do physical checks of your levels as the seed will build up in the corners and edges giving you a false reading of what is being fed to the seed cups. ....


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2006-10-13          135922


Thanks Art. ....


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Art White
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2006-10-13          135924


What does it have for opening discs? There are single,double as well as stagered. The rods that hold the ground pressure on the discs is how we tell how well worn they are as well as the diameter of the discs. With the price you have found even if worn and with the proper attachments it is a good price. ....


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2006-12-03          137530


Not sure about that particular machine, but if you're going to plant mixed grasses be sure to keep stirring the seeds in the bins periodically. Brome grass seed, for example, is feathery and needs to be mixed with a carrier to adequately get it through the tubes. Also keep an eye on the tubes for plugging as you're planting.

The jury is out around here on whether grain drills work as well as good ol' discing and planting. ....


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2006-12-04          137566


You are right about Broome grass but they do make a seperate hopper for it. ....


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2010-10-25          174747


Hey folks, just found your group & would be happy to answer any questions I may have knowledge on.

I was a senior quality technician at the Hamilton factory until some ass VP from corporate decided he didn't like our city & ordered our factory closed without his superiors approval.

He was fired very quickly but the damage was done because of fear a reversal of policy would impact share prices negatively. I could go on about Wall street ruining thousands of lives but today we know it appears a tiny number.

My knowledge on Hamilton product is vast, having started as a forger & progressing to the toolroom gleaning metallurgy experience in the process. As one of the 2 most mechanically experienced quality technicians I was called upon to troubleshoot field complaints with our equipment (a task I relished, it was a lot of fun cracking a case, as an inspector).

I can add a little story about discovering a design flaw in the 5100 series grain drill that increased the rate at which the drive chains came off the drive gear sprockets.

The engineers changed a major dimension without accounting for the location of the drive wheel sprocket. An very rare error by our great engineers.

The patch to repair it is to drill 4 holes into about a 4" x 6", 1/4" thick plate. I don't recall whether the bolts were 5/8" or 1/2" but the bolts need to be replaced by ones 1/4 to 1/2" longer. The holes should be 1/32" larger than bolt diameter.

Then you moumt the plate under the wheel drive sprocket, moving the sprocket to its correct position 1/4" outward. This fix was implemented during only the last year & a half of production. This should be corrected on all working 5100 series drills & possibly one 5300 series model (don't believe it was still in production}.

If your drill does not have a 1/4" plate, check the alignment of the chain sprockets. If it appears alignment would benefit from adding the plate, do so. It will extend chain life & improve performance.

Our very new quality management never had the guts to issue a quality advisory to our customers on this. They buried their heads in the corporate structure hoping no one noticed they didn't desreve to be there.

Inspector Pat ....


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