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 | jchad50
Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 4 new hampshire 
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2004-09-09 96048
Hello folks, I'm a newbie who needs some advise... I need to install drainage ditches on each side of a (very) steep 1200 ft driveway. This is a new project for me. What is the best implement to cut in a ditch alongside my crowned gravel driveway ? I have access to a New Holland TC30 for this and other projects. Thanks in advance for the help
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| TomG
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5406 Upper Ottawa Valley 
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2004-09-10 96111
It might be a bit of a challenge depending on the slope, soil, tractor tires and ballast, and some prior experience might be good. There is some safety issues.
For moderate cost implements a rear blade would likely be the tool of choice--especially if the tractor can't drive in the ditch. If it's tilted and angled slightly forward it will cut a ditch and drag the soil up and onto the drive. The blade does need to be longer than the tire tracks or have an off-set. You might need a strategy to control erosion. I use a box scraper for very minor ditching. ....
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| jchad50
Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 4 new hampshire
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TomG - thanks for the reply. The tractor can straddle the ditch area, and therefore run parallel to the driveway, thus making the operation somewhat safer... my goal is to to deepen(by 6-8") the "V" cut of the proposed drainage trench. I have already installed culverts for drainage control; now I need to cut in the "V" ditch which will connect to the culverts, ....does any of this change your recommendation (of using a back blade ? ) ....
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Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7249 Toronto Area, Ontario, Canada
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I would think the second best tool for this would be a rear blade with tilt & offset. That way you can have the point of contact in the centerline of the travelled path.
The absolute best would be a ditcher, but you certainly wouldn't run one with a TC30, the link below goes to one of the better ones.
I have seen 'static' ditchers, basically a narrow rear blade with a downwards-facing point and up-sloping runners to direct the soil up & out of the trench.
Best of luck. ....
Link: Hurricane Ditcher
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 | grinder
Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 677 central Maine 
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Are you trying to ditch screened gravel or may there be some virgin ground in there? Rocks and stumps,roots? If so, get an excavator. ....
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Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 192 Lucerne Maine
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Murf, or anyone, who makes a scarifier other then Landpride, I am looking for a fairly sturdy one. Thanks ....
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| TomG
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5406 Upper Ottawa Valley
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It depends on the soil as Grinder mentioned but an ordinary blade with tilts should do it or one with a special end for ditching as Murf mentioned. It's a fairly heavy traction job and weight in the front of a 4wd tractor would help. It also would resist drag on end of the blade from turning the tractor toward the ditch. Fairly heavy blades cut better.
I have done shallow v-ditches(maybe 6" deep) with my box scraper. I lower one scarifier and run it along the ditch course. Then I put as much tilt on the box as I can get with the 3ph leveler and run a corner of the box along the scarifier cut. The box will carry most of the cut material and bring some of it onto the drive. A blade probably would be better but the box is what I have. ....
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