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 | Deeeno
Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6 Virginia 
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2004-03-03 78713
You can see from my post that I have a delima. :-)
Hi, I'm new to this message board and I'm here b/c I want a toy.... or tractor if you will. My problem is that I've never owned a tractor & only driven a few in my life. I am about to build a house and I have 18 acres of land. Most of this land is wooded; however, I'm going to have quite a bit of it dozed for the home and yard. I need a tractor for the following reasons:
1. Mowing (5 acres +)
2. Maintaining a driveway (1/2 mile gravel)
3. Gardening
4. Possibly bush hog usage (trees smaller than the size of your wrist)
So far, I've looked at the JD 790, 2210, 4010, 4110 and a couple of Kubota models. I can't decide b/c I know very little about what I'm getting into. I do know that I like the Hydrostat since I'm a newbie. I thought this would be something I could get used to easier than the gearing. Would someone be so kind as to give me some advice so I don't make a costly mistake. I can see from the posts that you all love your toys. I want to ensure I love mine as much as you guys!
Also, are tractor prices negotiable like vehicles???
I think I should have used the user name of clueless. :-)
Thank you in advance!!!!
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 | blizzard
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 282 Central Maine
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2004-03-03 78715
Deeno,
Deere, Kubota, New Holland, etc. all make good tractors.
I have a Kubota L3130, proximity of the dealer, price and reputation were my serious considerations.
The smaller CUTs are really good for finish mowing, getting around obstructions and less demanding jobs, but have limited ground clearance and smaller attachments. Brush cutters are horsepower hogs. Working in the woods requires agility, stability, and ground clearance. I don't finish mow with my CUT, cut ~3acres with a 'disposable' 42" MTD garden mower, so size was what I could afford/fit in the garage. If you are seldom brush-cutting it might be cheaper to rent or contract the work out, and buy a smaller tractor.
My drive is ~1600' and I run a 7' rake and 64" snow blower, I guess you would want at least the 24 PTO HP I have available to maintain yours.
Once you have your 'uses' prioritized, test drive all the models you can, it will give you operating experience and also an idea of what to compare.
Plenty of good info/opinions here, do a Search on your key word(s).
This post is pretty general, but just my 2-cents.
Have fun shopping around, and welcome to the board,
bliz ....
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| Charlie_in_TX
Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 12 Cypress
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2004-03-04 78786
You want us to help you spend your money. Thats tough to do ;). Of the options you gave I would say 4110 with MMM and brush hog. While you have your checkbook out add the FEL.
I mow 4 to 5 acres. I have been using an old Ford 8n with either a 72" RFM or a 60" hog. It was taking too long to mow (as long as 4 hours a weekend). I just bought a Mahindra 2615 (26hp) 72MMM and FEL to replace the 8n. Can't relay a report on the 2615 yet. It only has 2 hrs on it now. ....
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 | ScooterMagee
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 201 Nebraska
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2004-03-04 78790
For my 2-cents, the “sub”-CUTs are probably too small and not enough horsepower for that amount of property. I have a 2210 and 2.5 acres, which works out just about right. Although occasionally I wish I had went with the 4110. IMHO, I would start with the 4110 and maybe go larger. ....
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 | Chief
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4297 Southwest MiddleTennessee 
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2004-03-05 78865
From the usages you specify; I would say your choices are the 790, 4110 minimum size. The 4115 is a much better choice but a good bit more expensive. DRankin can probably give you the best feedback on the 4115 of anyone on the board. In my opinion, you may want to consider the 4310 since I am sure you will many more tasks for the tractor than you have dreamed of once you begin building on the house. It can also run a 60 inch rotary cutter and other implements such as a post hole digger with a bit more ease due to its slightly larger size/frame & hp. You could certainly make do with the smaller tractors but would just have to take smaller bites and some tasks would be very difficult. I would also suggest the hydro which removes the 790 from the list. The 790 is a VERY good and capable tractor but it only comes in manual shift. I would also strongly suggest that you demo each tractor and any other color/flavor brands you may have an interest in and go with what suits you best. Take your time and do the research and find out how and what implements perform on each tractor. You can ask around or ask the sales folks at the dealer and see if you can get them to demo hooking up and operating. Good luck! ....
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 | jeff r
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 428 burton. michigan
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2004-03-05 78869
If you had to buy a Green tractor instead of Orange, my choice would be the 790 and I could live without the hydro instead of a too small of tractor like the other 2 tractors mentioned being the 2210,4010, and 4100. ....
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 | plots1
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 563 mo 
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2004-03-05 78895
I TOO WOULD SAY THE 790 A BIT MORE FRAME SIZE AND MORE FRIENDLY TO THE WALLET ....
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| glalonde
Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 18 near Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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2004-03-05 78897
I use an old lawn tractor (42") to cut ~2.5 acres of grass.
My 790 (AG tires) does a great job, specially that I need the high clearance when making trails in the wood. That said, there are times when hydro would make the job easier such as clearing the snow with the FEL (need to change direction/ground speed often), but I'm getting used to gear shifting and it's not so bad after a while.
Another advantage of hydro is that you can set the RPM high enough for keeping decent horsepower and just vary your ground speed with the pedals (without changing the RPM and therefore the H.P.). With gear, if you want to keep the same RMP for adequate H.P., then you will need to shift gear to change your ground speed. You can always reduce your ground speed by reducing the RPM (without shifting), but this will affect the H.P. if you need more of it. ....
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| JDF415
Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 34 Kansas
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2004-03-05 78903
Deeeno,
I would recommend the hydro for ease of use. The 790 are a good value (Cost per hp) however it is not as easy to operate as say a 4115 or 2210. I would recommend the 4115 with 72" mid mower for handling the 5+ acres of lawn. Put a rear blade on the back for keeping the driveway in tip top shape and your set. You can always add the front loader to make hauling easier. Also you can add a tiller for garden work when needed.
If $$ is tight then go with the 2210. You can only go with a 62" mower deck, so it will take a little longer to mow the 5 acres, but this is still a good little tractor at a very attractive price.
If money is no issue at all, I would step up to the 4310 like Chief recommended.
Every dealer is different. We price our tractors right where we want to sell them and that is about where we stay. Some dealers price at list price then come down to make you think you drove home a bargin. Either way make sure you chose a dealer that treats you fair and that you like to deal with because this should be a long term relationship. Once you have a price you can always come back to this site and everyone here will be glad to tell you if it is a good deal or not.
Good luck with you purchase.
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