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 | horse_guy
Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5 SW Wisconsin 
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2004-01-22 74773
just wondering if anyone has baled hay with a tc29 New Holland? I know alot of people used to bale with an 8n Ford and the 600 and Jubilee Fords when I was a kid. The tc29 is a real powerhouse in comparison and the diesel seems to have more useable horsepower than a gas engine. I would like to bale small square bales for my horses using my tc29 and a baler with just a chute not a thrower. I added an update below and found a baler that I can easily run with my TC29 tractor, the New Holland 68 baler is rated at 15hp minimum I found out from New Holland. Please read more on this below.........
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 | harvey
Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 1550 Moravia, NY 
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2004-01-23 74774
Horse guy My Uncle used his 1900 Ford 1 time that I remember but he tried with kicker wagon. The regular baler tractor broke on a Sunday afternoon and other tractors were tied up and only had 2 or so loads to go. He did ok on the flat but "ANY" kind of a slope up or down was not a good thing.
I think you will be fine. The bigger draw back is the plunger changing direction you will have a lot of surge with the small tractor unless you have a small baler like the ones used in the 50's and very early 60's.
Just start slow old cutting knives and tuff hay will kill your HP. ....
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 | DRankin
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 5116 Northern Nevada 
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2004-01-23 74800
Here is a mini-baler that is supposed to work on most small tractors. ....
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 | AC5ZO
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 928 Rio Rancho, NM 87144 
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2004-01-23 74801
Mark, that is a pretty cool setup.
I think that in general balers that roll the hay into a cylinder use less power than the square balers that have to cut and compress. I like the rolled bales because they tend to be more weather resistant.
I do remember some of the old 1950 era square balers having a large flywheel on the PTO drive shaft at the front of the machine to help even out the surges in the driveline. ....
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 | wbowhunt
Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 207 West Virginia
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2004-01-23 74875
You Know, I have been looking at small Square bailers and have not found one that my TC 33 could run. The lowest HP at the PTO I found was a 35hp square Bailer. I never thought about if they made a small round bailer? I am going to have to see what the Price on these are. Even the samllest square bailer was over $10,000 new. Around here it is darn impossible to find alot of attachments and such for CUTS. Everyone who has a tractor around here has at least two, one that is 50Hp ++ and then usually an old Farmall M or H, or the 8N's. So used is not an option. Thanks for finding that. ....
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| harvey
Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 1550 Moravia, NY
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2004-01-23 74886
I just saw, last summer at old iron auction, a McCormic 45 baler go for $25.00 your 35 horse whould run that easy.
The only major draw back is the plunger action on a light tractor. If you baled a lot in 1 day you might need a neck brace.
The older NH77 balers had a 4cyl wisconson engine on them because few tractors had pto's.
The bales from the early 50's balers were small and the tractor did not have a lot of HP they did have some torque but they were a little heavier than the CUT's today.
Watch the old iron auctions and the older family farm auctions keep in touch with dealers they see plenty of this stuff if they know you are looking. ....
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| wbowhunt
Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 207 West Virginia
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2004-01-23 74891
Thanks Harvey, I do alot of Hay work now on my old neighbors farm and we work on the barter system, I help him mow, rake and stack in the mow, and he lets me bowhunt and get my hay at either the free or extremely reduced rate ( pending how much I help out ). But he just bought an new NH round baler last summer and mde over 900 round bales on first cut alone. I don't have enough land ( Yet! ) to invest big time, but my new neighbor ( Who is a Dentist and bought 108 Acres, but doesn't farm ) may allow me to do some sort of lease. If I could find some good priced used equipment I would be set. I have done some local auctions and sales, but as I said, most of the stuff around here seems to be for the big rigs and any of the old stuff just seems to be left out in fields. There is a place down the road from that has alot of Sheep ( Please no WV Jokes ) and in the middle of his pastures are 4 old JD's scattered around along with some other old equipment. I have thought about stopping as asking what he would want for them. But... Well you know time and money..... They have been there for years, so I guess I can wait a little longer. ....
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| harvey
Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 1550 Moravia, NY
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2004-01-24 74912
The biggest problem with the balers is the knotters. I'm not sure about resources for them.
If you are mechanical you'd be able to take apart clean polish and retime.
Art might be better able to talk parts avaiability.
But I'm ah thinking you may be biting off a little more than tc33 will want to handle. I'd be watching for something with a little more iron in it for the GRUNT work. Or a little more barter time.
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| ALDALE
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 18 CINCINNATI, OHIO
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2004-01-24 74930
Harvey
You're right about the Knotters. I knew farmers that had the old square balers when they were new back in 1950's and the knotters were very hard to maintain. They required clenaing, adjustments and a lot of luck. ....
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| horse_guy
Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5 SW Wisconsin
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2004-01-29 75439
Well I have been doing alot of research and found out from Hen Holland that the NH68 baler has a recommended min hp rating of 15hp. This is and older baler made from 1956 to 1958. I know alot of farmers then used the smaller tractors to bale with, I was concerned about the weight and my TC29 with loader and fluid in the tires weighs about 3478 lbs. That is more than a Farmall H in hp and weight, more than a 8n Ford and the 600 series. I also talked to my NH dealer and he said that my TC29 will easily handle the NH68 baler. There were alot of these older balers around and now everyone is going to the large round or square bales or the throwers so they are pretty cheap. I found a real nice one for $300.00 that was used last summer. Also there are still new parts available for this baler and my dealer tells me they are pretty much indestructible and very reliable. This sure beats $15,000 for a new compact baler. I just thought I would update this information in case anyone else is looking for a baler for their compact tractor for their horses as I am. Thanks to everyone for their input!! ....
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