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 | Chief
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4299 Southwest MiddleTennessee 
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2003-06-15 57720
I have about 90% of the service done now. I'm going to let the tractor sit over night so it can thoroughly drain. Taking the MMM off was not too bad. Had to break down and bend the release handle. Hercules and The Hulk both conspired to tighten the suction oil filter at the factory. (had to use my Walmart special oil filter pliers to get it off, tore the heck out of the filter doing it) The 3 pt. hitch filter is a PITA to get to with a wrench. Spilled about 1 1/2 quarts of hy-guard on the floor when the filter funnel I was dumping the oil into fell over. Lots of cursing on that one! ;o) Just have to install the new filters, oil, covers, and the MMM and I am done. I found a fair amount of small metal chips and non-metalic trash in the suction screen and the 3pt. Hitch filter. Glad that service does not come around for another 400 hours. Wasn't that bad overall. Reminds me of why I stopped doing this for a living over 20 years ago.
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Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 563 mo 
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2003-06-15 57726
CHief, your not going to do it again for 400 hrs? I was thinking about doing mine at least every 1oo hrs.think thats what the book calls for anyway. ....
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| Chief
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2003-06-15 57727
Plots1,I was more referring to the transmission oil and filter change. My manual calls for it every 400 hours. The oil looked pretty clean that came out. Just little metal debry which was caught by the filters and screens. That could get mighty expense every 100 hours. I will change the engine oil and filter probably every 50-100 hours or annually. ....
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Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 875 Michigan 
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2003-06-16 57735
How often are you going to change the tranny fluid/filter if you dont hit the hours ? I am just wondering as I am pretty sure I will have to change mine sooner than the hours due to age. But mine is much smaller without a hitch filter or mmm. ....
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| Chief
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4299 Southwest MiddleTennessee
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2003-06-16 57754
The 4410 has an extremely fine mesh (more like metal woven cloth suction screen), a hydraulic filter (about the size of a quart jar) , and a hydraulic suction filter (about the size of a 2 qt. pickle jar). The fluid that I took out looked nice and clean. So clean in fact that I am saving it to use in my log splitter. For now, I am going to stay with the 400 hr. change but I am going to also keep an eye on the fluid to see if it changes color or smell. In that case I would change it. I may just change my mind depending on how long it takes me to get to 200 hrs. and change it then. This is not a cheap service even though I am doing it myself. Just the two filters were about $61 and the Hy-guard (7 gallons) was $56. The suction screen gasket was $5.28. I did the ole' stick the plug back in the hole and get sprayed with oil to drain the oil from the bucket trick this time, but next time I am using a container to catch all 6.8 gallons of the oil. (makes too much of a mess. I let the tractor sit and drain over night with all of the plugs and filters off to get as much oil as possible drain. That way I know it was done right. The 3 pt. hitch filter is a RPITA to get at with a wrench. A little better design would be in order. ....
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| plots1
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2003-06-16 57797
Mine really wasn't that bad to change out, filter was a little over tightened I though but I got it.As you said fluid looked clean but I had problem with my 3pt moving slow , It was a clogged filter, I too found metal frag in the screen.after looking at the book mine also says 400 to next change. but I won't be waiting that long considering what I seen at 40hrs.
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2003-06-16 57811
Just a follow up on the finish of the service. Got everything together and was snugging up the last 10mm cap screw on the HST filter transmission cover and broke the last cap screw off. All of them except one were not tight and felt funny (kinda springy taking them out) I have a suspicion the cap screw were over tightened either at the factory or the dealer. I sure I didn't help things either. I got the broken piece out of the threaded hole and ordered 6 more to replace them all. I didn't tighten them that much, just tried to get them snug. Only one of the screws snugged. The screw are 9 cents a piece. ....
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