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 | dgavin
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 19 West Wisconsin 
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2002-08-12 41179
Ok folks,
Here is the scoop on my new l3010 (FEL and Backhoe).I really had some serious dig time on this machine over the weekend.Worked at clearing underbrush and digging holes for footings on my boat ramp project.I'm in Minn.so a 4ft depth iis required.The FEL worked flawless (for digging get the add on toothbar,it makes a hugh difference.)Plenty of power and mondo performance.The backhoe seemed a little underpowered even at full throttle.I can't quite make out the reason why.Maybe it was the tree roots.
Anyway, for all you "K" fans out there,the bottom line on the l3010 is....Great heavey duty machine,good worker,but underpowered for this type of application.If i had to do it again or could fit a bigger machine into my garage i would get more h.p.(Not the l3410,it's only 3 more h.p. which isn't squat.)
Word to the wise for Hydro vs.Shuttle debate: The Hydo unit does suck up some power to run.So consider it carefully when configuring your unit.The sales guys will tell you it hardly makes any difference and that ain't so.
Good tractor'in,
dg
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| TomG
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5406 Upper Ottawa Valley 
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2002-08-13 41197
Good to hear the tractor does its job OK. The comments do illustrate the idea that power and time work together. Less HP often means that jobs take longer, not that they can't be done. Some owners are likely to be just as happy to have a smaller tractor after some one-time big projects are done--especially if one of the big projects is to build a shed big enough for the tractor.
I've always thought that a backhoe that seems slightly under-powered may not be bad. A hoe is something that has capacity to damage a tractor and it may be a good thing not to have all the power desired when the temptation to stretch out the hoe and dig becomes too great.
The trouble is that there really is no safety device on a hoe to protect a tractor. Protection depends on operator technique. The system relief valve or relief valve in the hoe valve provides general protection. However, you want power when digging fairly close to the tractor and high pressures are desirable. Dig further away and the same pressures may damage the tractor. I remember seeing a picture of a tractor where a large chunk of case surrounding the top-link bracket was broken out.
In this case, there's a chance that the hoe's relief valve is set lower than the tractor's relief valve. That would affect performance, but it may be a good thing. Tree roots tend to be difficult for a tractor mounted hoe no matter how big the hoe or tractor.
Regarding HSP and HP: I suspect that the power loss is apparent only in operations when the tractor is moving. HST's may not affect the power of stationary hydraulic or PTO operations. But, I've got gears, and maybe I've just never thought about it much.
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