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 | Darrell
Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 4 tenn 
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2002-05-25 39041
I have a Ford/Newholland 1920 I bought new in 1998. The dealer filled the rear tires with calcium when they preped it. In 2001, I noticed some liquid seeping from around one of the valve stems. This year, the liquid is a tan color and the first signs of rust are showing around the tire bead and valve stem. The valve stems are stainless steel and do not appear to be leaking. The leak appears to be coming from the tube and seeping out around the valve stem. However, there is no major loss of pressure in the tire. I keep 14 psi. in the rear tires, and even after sitting over winter 6 months, the tire pressure only dropped to 12 or 13 psi. Also, when I store the tractor for long periods of time I make sure the valve stems are on top of the rim and give them a blast of air to blow the liquid out of the valve. Now on to my question. Has anybody out there have an idea of a simple cheap pump to remove the fluid from my tires so I can remove the tires and repair the rust damage and refill with a noncorrisive ballast like Rim Guard? The tire dealers in my area want a small fortune to do this for me. I am particular about my tractor and it only has 140 hrs. on it. Any suggestions on how to save my rims would be appreciated.
Thanks. Darrell
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| TomG
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5406 Upper Ottawa Valley 
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2002-05-26 39062
I believe some people have ‘do it yourself’ pumps and valve-stem adapters. I'm not sure, but you might find this type of thing someplace like Northern Tool on-line catelogue (www.northerntool.com). The most difficult problem might be figuring what to do with the old CACL.
Sounds like you take considerable precautions, and I assume that the tires have tubes in them. Such setups serve many owners well for years, but going to a lesser corrosive fill still also would be understandable for many other owners.
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 | Art White
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 6898 Waterville New York
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2002-05-27 39083
When fluid comes out of the valve stem as you say it is the first sign that the tube is leaking or if they didn't put tubes in your valve stem is leaking. I hate to say it but from time to time we do have leaks. They need to be corrected as soon as posssible. Your tire pressure could actually be water pressure as the pumps we use today will over fill a tire against the air pressure to give you the readings you have. The fluid will hold the air in like you stated. ....
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 | DRankin
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 5116 Northern Nevada
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2002-05-27 39094
The more I consider the question, especially given the size of my tractor, the more inclined I am to consider wheel weights. When I poke a hole in a tire, I have to remove it, haul it to the tire store, buy a new tube, get it refilled and bring it back and remount it. For me that is usually two 15 mile round trips and a half a day shot (at least). Meanwhile the tractor is out of commission and the tires weigh 180-200 pounds if they are filled properly, and I have a small tractor. Then there is the quality issue! Last time I got mostly water and a couple cups of CaCl. If I go to wheel weights I can go tubeless probably plug the hole without even removing the tire from the tractor. The rims will last years longer and I can put a total of 180 pounds of ballast on each rear tire instead of the 120 I am getting now. Yes the weights are expensive but so are new rims as is the time it takes to get the tires fixed whenever I hit a nail or something sharp. I think I am going to pony up the bucks and get the weights. ....
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| Jim on Timberridge
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 172 La Crosse WI
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2002-05-27 39097
I had CaCl2 in my JD345 lawn tractor and it corroded my rims. never again.
Have the 110# wheel weights on my 4700's rear wheels -- 2 per wheel. the 440# plus whatever implement on the 3pt give me all the counter balance i need.
would never consider putting fluid in the tires again.
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| kay
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2002-05-27 39099
Its good to be happy with whatever we do with our compacts. I have $50 worth of windshield washer fluid in my rear tires (Deere 4300 R-4's). That's 25 gal of fluid and 5 gal of water in each rear tire for an estimated weight in each of about 240#. The tires are tubeless. I don't expect any rusting as the tires are filled above the rim at the top. If they puncture, I don't care where the fluid goes, nor do I worry about the little cost to replace it. I am happy that I don't have to hang heavy weights on the rims. Seems like there are plusses and minuses for all combinations. Its good to see discussion of the many combinations that are possible. The bottom line is that we need weight on the back if we have a FEL on the front. ....
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| Ken Butner
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2002-05-30 39181
Darrell, in regards to the question you asked, there is a way to pump calcium chloride out of your tires. Farm supply stores sell an adapter to convert your valve stem to a standard garden hose thread. I went to Lowes and bought a small pump that is turned by a drill. The pump has garden hose threads on the input and output. I turned the tire until the valve stem was down, jacked up the tractor and blocked the rear wheel up so no weight would be on it, screwed the adapter onto the valve stem, screwed the pump input directly to the adapter, and then screwed a garden hose to the output of the pump. I used a small drill to turn the pump. The pump acutually sucked the tire flat around the rim. This will get most of the calcium out, but I am sure there will be some left. As for ballast, most folks use an ENVIRONMENTALLY friendly antifreeze and water which does not corrode. Also it will not kill your pets or hurt the enviroment if you get a tire puncture. Hope this helps!-Ken ....
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