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 | Deerester
Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10 Butler Pa 
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2004-11-22 100766
I have a JD 4100 with a 53" 410 fel. After moving some wet dirt today I really need to add some weight in the rear and I dont want to add rear ballast or wheel weights. I plan on purchasing a rear grader blade and a blade box this week and one or the other will be on most of the time (most likely the grader blade). My question is this enough weight to hold it down?
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 | DRankin
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 5116 Northern Nevada 
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2004-11-22 100774
No.
See my #2 picture for graphic evidence of just how light the rear end of a 4100 is.
The owners manual says you need +/- 1100 pounds to safely use the FEL with heavy materials. Believe it.
If you cruise through some of my other photo's you will find a couple of inexpensive options for adding rear ballast: cinder blocks in #11 and barbell weights in #12 and #13.
A ballast box filled with sand or concrete is another affordable option.
However you get there, you will need to counter balance the weight of the FEL assembly AND the weight of the load in the bucket on this particular model.
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 | beagle
Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1333 Michigan 
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2004-11-23 100822
A rear grader or box blade will probably weigh in at about 275lbs. Even though this weight will be behind the lift arms, it probably will not be enough to meet the manufacturers recommneded ballast for the FEL. I use a box blade for ballast with my 7800, but I also have filled rear tires which adds another 400lbs. Check your owners manual for the recommended ballasting for any implement. Proper ballasting is important for safe operation. ....
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| DRankin
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 5116 Northern Nevada
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2004-11-23 100834
I have 700 pounds of steel on the 4115, between the wheel weights and the Bad River Hitch, plus 285 pounds of me.
I have found that the longer wheelbase and heavier base weight of the 4115 lets me get by with a little less ballast weight than the 4100. ....
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| Deerester
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2004-11-23 100855
Hey guys thanks for the info. So now I know I need lots of weight behind me.I hate to fill the tires because i know there are times I wont want the weight on (mowing).Rankin I like the weights you got set up on yours. Im getting a 6' grader blade tomorrow and if the frame work on it is heavy enough id like to fabricate a ballast box and weld it into the blades frame work. With the blade weighing around 250lb and if i can get another 350lb in weight ballast plus my sorry 235lb butt this should be enough weight so i dont have to check my underwear next time i got a full bucket of wet dirt. ....
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| DRankin
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2004-11-23 100862
That 53 inch bucket makes the problem a bit worse.
You can see why I tell folks to stay away from the 61 inch bucket on this model, unless they are moving sawdust or snow. ....
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