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 | mike troll
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2000-04-11 14691
i'm buying my first compact utility tractor to maintain and landscape a 2 acre yard. my neighbors are also excited about this purchase.i have narrowed my choices between the JD 4200 or the kubota 2710, i plan to equip the tractor with a front end loader and a backhoe . any suggestions as to which is better or more practical . also does the backhoe dig with relative ease? THANKS!!
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 | Murf
Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7249 Toronto Area, Ontario, Canada 
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2000-04-12 14702
Mike, that question is just about the same as what brand of pickup is better. I dont think you will find anyone who will disagree with the wisdom of "The best tractor for you is definitely the one sold by the BEST dealer in your area." A friend of mine sums it up this way, he says he has a "Chevy butt" he likes my Ford, but is more comfortable in his Chevy, more power to him. I personally use all Kubota's in my business, but that is probably 75% because I have an OUTSTANDING dealer who behind me 100% and 25% because the equipment has proven it's quality and dependability to me over the years. On the other hand I have friends in the business who swear by New Holland and John Deere. After about 20 yrs. of intensive use of Compacts let me tell you this, look around your area, find a good dealer (by talking to owners), make your best deal, and enjoy... Best of luck. ....
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| Doug Huebner
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2000-04-12 14703
I went with the JD based on the dealer and my wifes perception that the JD was a better tractor and she, therefore, approved spending the money. I went with the 4300 because you get more horses for a few dollars more. It seems like you could always use a few more. I have the loader, belly mower and backhoe. They are all easy to attach, use and remove. The backhoe is easy to use in concept - but operating it is sometimes like patting your head and rubbing your stomach at the same time [at least for beginners like me]. Just when I think I have it, I wind up throwing some dirt in the wrong direction. My only problem is that the backhoe hydraulics are strong enough to move the whole tractor around if you hit into some rocks or hard dirt. So you might wind up moving the tractor rather than digging in - but it could also just be my skill level at this point. At $6-7K, if I was going to do it again, I think I would look into a dedicated used unit with a backhoe [in addition to the 4300]. ....
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| MichaelSnyder
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2000-04-12 14708
I completely agree with Murf.
This is one of the reasons I didn't look at NH. Not because I think NH is inferior, but more because the one and only local dealer isn't very close. If he goes under....Whew..I don't know where I would have to go. Sorta the same situation with Kubota, although not nearly as bad. JD on the other hand.. I have 2 dealers very close, and about 3 more within about the same radius as the NH or Kub dealers. Putting all that aside, between the two units U mentioned. I'll add a vote for the 2710. ....
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| JeffM
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2000-04-12 14713
I started right where you are a year ago in my tractor decision, comparing Kubota 2710 to JD 4200. My intended use was lots of loader work, fair amount of backhoe work, and mowing 2 acres starting next year. As I learned more, I seriously studied the NH Boomers also. Ended up deciding I needed more weight and hp for the amount of loader and backhoe work I wanted. So then I was comparing Kubota 3010, JD4300, and NH TC29D and their respective loader/backhoe/mowers. Ended up buying a JD4400 with 430 loader, 48 backhoe, and future 60" belly mower for the following reasons: #1. I wanted a sub-frame or frame-mounted backhoe for strength and stability (vs 3-point). All three tractors had sub-frame or frame solutions. #2. I didn't want to mow with a backhoe and loader on so they had to be easy to attach/detach on a weekly basis. JD won hands down in this category, definitely the easiest. #3. I wanted a belly mower so my wife and kids wouldn't wreak havoc with a rear mower. I also wanted a belly mower that could stay attached with a backhoe subframe or if I wanted to use the backhoe and loader just for a small job. JD was the only one of the three in which the belly mower was compatible with the frame or sub-frame mounted backhoe. (Massey Ferguson also can do this.) #4. I decided it was worth $1000 extra for the extra hp of the 4400 vs the 4300. #5. One of the best dealers I ran into sold both Kubota and John Deere and his pricing was competitive. #6. Although I think that NH and Kubota might be more trouble-free than the JD 4xxx series (front axles, etc.) I felt that JD had fixed the axle issue and that my dealer would stand behind the tractor. #7. I rated the ergonomics (comfort and controls) of the three tractors as NH Boomer #1 with JD 4300/4400 and Kubota 3010 tied for second. (I rate the 2710/2910 just behind the Boomer in this category.) Lots of my humble opinions in the preceding, and your mileage (and opinions) may vary :>) ....
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| JeffM
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2000-04-12 14714
After a I read my lengthy post (shades of Mark Chalkley) I had an additional comment: IF I had decided my loader work was relatively light, AND IF my backhoe work would be infrequent, AND THEREFORE I could live with less hp, weight and 3-point backhoe, THEN I would choose the Kubota 2710/2910 hands down. ....
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