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Christoph
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2002-11-04          44610

I have a '99 NH/Ford 2175 That won't move after started. The clutch acts like its engaged at all times. I've checked the linkages and the fluids and all seem fine. The linkages move freely. The tractor starts, the shifter will go through all the gears, but won't engage. The PTO doesn't turn an FWD doesn't work also. All this happened after unhooking a mower.
Please, any help appreciated.


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2002-11-05          44624

Sounds more like the clutch seems disengaged and I imagine that's what is meant.

Knowing if the tractor has a live or TX driven PTO might help narrow down the problem a bit. However, the problem sounds more like it's ahead of the TX, and neither the TX or PTO (if live) input shafts are getting power. A bad clutch could do that or throw-out bearing that was seized back on the pilot shaft (although in that case the clutch probably would feel different).

Unfortunately, description of the problem is similar to a story where I think a broken pilot shaft was the eventual explanation. I wish I could think of a possible easy fix. Maybe somebody else has an idea. ....

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2002-11-05          44632

Were there any loud noises? If the throw out or pilot bearing goes there is normally the sound of flying parts. Also the clutch should be engaged unless a bearing has lodged in the clutch plate.
Another option would be bent clutch forks but again this normally results in a engaged only clutch.
It could be a torn up clutch plate but again I would have thought that you would have heard some load noises and I guess I have never seen complete disengagement unless the clutch has completely disintergrated.
Does this tractor have a hydraulic clutch inkage? ....

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2002-11-05          44646

Thanks for the responses. There were no loud noises, or noises at all...still aren't. Everything seems fine, except there is less resistance on the clutch petal. I believe it has a hydrolic clutch. ....

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2002-11-05          44647

If it is a hydraulic clutch linkage then it is likely that the seal has blown in the slave or master cylinder. I am not sure how the situation would allow the clutch to remain disengaged hopefully as I would normally thing the clutch springs would over come the cylinder but? I would suspect the master has gone and the slave is stuck extended. I would be careful as it might snap back when you are playing with it. ....

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2002-11-06          44658

Thanks to Peters for thinking of a hydraulic clutch. Something that is holding the throw-out bearing back is my best guess as well. 2175's must be entirely different from 2110's. My parts manual doesn't shoe a hydraulic clutch for 2110's but I probably wouldn't have thought of it anyway.

Without knowing where the hydraulic components are located, at least there seems to be a chance for repair without splitting the tractor, and that's a very pleasant possibility.

Like Peters, I don't usually think of clutches failing suddenly and completely, so the throw-out bearing is a good bet, and you would think that a broken shaft would throw some parts around and be pretty noticeable. Never the less, as I recall the broken pilot shaft story, there may have been an initial pop, but then nothing.
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