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2004-07-23          91728

How would you think a subsoiler would work for getting a trench about 12-14" underground for wiring? I am copying one that I see at King Kutters web site. I was thinking that it may just be the ticket for getting down that deep and not disturbing too much ground in the area?

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2004-07-24          91767

That is a awesome idea. If you look at the big cable layers you'd have the thought of how to do.

First you need to rig a feed tube to the back side of the subsoiler to get the cabe to the bottom. You can decide how to carry the cable or to feed it.

I would make a dry run to the project to check for obstructions (BFR's, stumps, etc) if you are happy with the depth make the real run and lay the cable feeding it down the tube to start. It will self feed after a few feet.

GOOD LUCK! ....

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2004-07-24          91812

Harvey
LOL Man I am like a little girl!!! I change my mind faster than even I can imagine. Last night after making that post I was checking other sub soilers (other than king kutter) I see where just about all of them have shear pin protection! DAH,, That was why I was lookjing, I could not believe I was making something like this without some form of relief if it hits a no go stump.

Anyway, I already had the frame made and the lower link pins everything was welded together already and just waiting for me to finish the main bar going into the ground that holds the insert tooth. I came up with anouther use for this frame. Today I added 2 pieces of square tubing (2 1/2")OD. (2"ID). With this I can insert any length 2" square tubing I want to use as a carrier. They are 25" apart. WIll take a pic later this week and post (after it is painted New Holland Blue!) The sub soiler will have to wait just a bit longer, I need to find one that I can get a good look at to see how this shear pin protection is incorporated into the rig. I have a good idea of what would work, but with anything I do I like to try and do it once. The list of impliments keeps gettin bigger and the garage keeps gettin smaller! ....

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2004-07-24          91813

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12 registered, time for some of those 64 to join us, come on guys and gals, it's cheap, it's imformative,damn funny at times, I got my 19.95 worth of info allready. ....

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2004-07-24          91829

Brokenarrow, I've did just such a thing quite a bit in the past. Harvey is giving you some real good advice. Pre rip it at least twice before puting any wire down the tube to be real sure all the rocks, roots, etc. are out of the way. Having to pull up, dig out a rock or trying to go around it just don't work too well with cable in the trench. It's also surprising how much power is needed to cut a trench that deep in one pass, so start shallow at five or six inches then keep working deeper with each pass till you reach your desired depth, it may take four or five, but don't put any wire in till you've got a full depth free pull. Hope this helps, Frank. ....

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2004-07-26          91916

Tom, we have just such a beast at the shop. We made it based on some online plans. It works very well for laying pipe, cable, etc., as long as the ground isn't too tough. It won't go any deeper than about 18" though, but if the shank were longer it could go deeper than that.

The shearpin is a 1/4" grade 2 bolt that prevents the blade from kicking back up like a rudder on a sailboat. The blade pivots at the top and the shear bolt goes through the frame and blade at a variety of distances down from the top, the further down you put the bolt the more force it takes to break it.

I think I still have a drawing of it, let me know if you want it.

Best of luck. ....

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2004-07-26          91994

Murf
Awesome!!! I would like it, never turn down a proven "freebee" !!!!
Thanks Hardwood, I will definitally do that!
Lucern
I second that, in fact I think I sould be throwing a steak and beverage party for all the guys here helping me along! I know I have more than likely saved $1000 in wrong purchases or purchases that I should of made and did not that would cost more later to add on. This board tops the top for me on my favorites, number 2 is MICHIGAN SPORTSMAN (habitat improvement site) Not spamming guys its a free bee!!!!!! ....

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