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 08-09-2007, 13:50 Post: 144514
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Shopped around for a sub compact (first tractor) - Decided on a TZ25 over a Kubota BX2350 mostly because the NH dealer is five miles down the street from the cabin. This is a small dealer they sell motorcycles, snowobiles, ATV's and since last year Tractors.I negotiated the price mostly on the phone against the BX. I got the New Holland TZ25 with a 54 inch deck and a FEL package for $13,500 financed 100% at zero% for 36 months. I had to pay $500 for insurance on the unit (you guys have to do that?). Anyway met the dealer out back to go over the machine before delivery - this guy has NO IDEA what he is doing - I mean NO IDEA!! Must have hit evey lever and peddle 10 times to get the thing through its paces - I learned so much more from the owners manual. I asked that he show me how to take off the loader and thank God he did not try to do that as it would be a mess for sure. I did not get a loader manual (but I will). Frankly, I'm a little spooked - bummed actually I know that I would use the machine more if I had a trusted place to buy attachments. Anybody else have this kind of issue?
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 08-09-2007, 15:25 Post: 144519
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PeteRPH,

You're not alone in this department.

Up here in North Dakota, small tractors are very uncommon. Dealers who sell and service them are even more sparse.

When I went looking for a small tractor, I knew I would be entirely on my own when it came time for service, repair, and resources.

The number of implement dealerships has dropped by over 50% in the past 25 years. This is mainly due to the smaller number of farmers, which is directly related to the large number of acres each farmer now handles.

Small tractors are in high demand all across the U.S. Up to now, most dealerships have never been involved with this market. In fact, most U.S. tractor makers have avoided this market altogether. Only recently have the U.S. makers decided to take part in this booming market. A few years ago, Kubota owned the small tractor market.


Many new dealerships are popping up around the country, simply because there is money to made in selling this equipment. However, most of these new dealerships have no clue how to service the machines they sell......and as you correctly pointed out, they have no idea how to even start the danged things.

Most of us don't have access to qualified service personnel. We simply take the plunge, with full understanding that we're on our own when it comes time to tear the thing apart and fix it. I welcome the challenge, but there are many people who simply don't own the tools or have the needed experience to be comfortable with tearing something apart and putting it back together correctly.

Welcome to the world of compact tractor ownership. Buy yourself a good set of tools, and learn how to use them.

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 08-09-2007, 15:34 Post: 144522
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It happens. But I think that's a lot on money for a smallish machine. Really. Not to take away from you or anyone else's dream machine but to me they're a garden tractor on steroids. And way over priced to boot for what you get.

I paid $13,500 back in '02 for my TC33D with no loader or attachments. Still, I saw a new '07 like mine from a dealer for just a few hundred more, so there are deals out there.

As far as insurance, ask them why and who is insuring it. and what is covered and what isn't. I was given the option to insure it myself (or not). I know when I bought my $47K skid steer they quoted me $110 for insurance---but then the day I was suppose to sign for it it jumped to $1,100. "DOH we forgot a zero"---yeah "zero" is right.






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 08-09-2007, 15:36 Post: 144524
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 New Holland TZ25 DA - not feeling the love!

Pete, it is not just tractor dealerships. I bought a four wheel drive pickup a few years ago. Was given very careful instructions how to shift in and out of four wheel drive. They were totally wrong compared to the manual which worked very well. The salesman was very surprised when I went over the manual with him.

You may find a dealership who is more in the commercial business better to deal with as they often have the smaller machines. At least they do here. The true Farm Dealerhships do very little with the none farm equipement as Candoarms pointed out.

Do not let that make you feel you have a bad machine. Maybe not a great dealership but you probably will not need him a lot and may find a great one.
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 08-09-2007, 21:49 Post: 144563
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Thanks Guys - I realize I probably (most likely)did not make the best "value" judgement on the TZ and I totally agree that for an additional 20% I would be in a much different catagory (real tractor). But in my defence I have no garage at the cabin only a shed (and you are rightly thinking Why did this fool spend 13K on a tractor instead of building a garage?)and believe it or not my 82 year old mother likes to cut the grass so I could not go too big and although we are lucky enough to have 100 acres in the mountains only about five of it is usable for fields and overgrown orchards that I have been clearing by walk behind brush mower for 15 years so even this little guy will be a big improvement. Lastly I'm making a bet here that this line of tractor (sub compact) will hold its value pretty well in the event I decide to upgrade. Still though I want a stump grinder and a bush hog with a slip clutch for trail clearing. - I have never seen an attachment go on a tractor of any kind. I'm not bad with a wrench but I never got near anything hydrolic before. You guys are from the middle - a good friend of mine recently sent me a pic from her home town in N.D. Devil's Fork? anyway the picture was of a young man and his date going to the prom on his John Deer tractor. Don't see that much in Boston!






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 08-18-2007, 21:32 Post: 144801
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You got an ok deal I think. I'll bet a hundred bucks you're under estimating the tractor like almost everyone else does. You got a 25 horse diesel, tires small enough to out torque my Bota 7510 easily. I don't hear much about NH but I don't hear anything bad neither. You may have to service it yourself like me and a thousand other guys on this sight cause good mechanics are hard to find anywhere. (More complaints about dealers on this sight than the tactors by far, and I'm one of them.) The reviews are ral good too. Hear is a websight to look up. compacttractorreview/review-New-Holland-TZ25DA_1513.aspx and see the reviews for yourself. One was just like you, he took the NH over the 2350 Kubota. At least you got the comfortable seat.






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 08-18-2007, 21:33 Post: 144802
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Send me the hundred bucks soon.






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 08-22-2007, 01:36 Post: 144895
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 New Holland TZ25 DA - not feeling the love!

Yes, the TZ25DA is a reliable and easy to use tractor. Make sure that you mount and unmount the loader on a flat level surface to avoid toppling the loader. Garden tractor on steroids...be careful, as these things are not toys and with the FEL can weigh as much as a sub-compact car and can overturn. At full throttle you'll have more than enough power with excellent fuel economy. Good purchase at a good price!






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 09-02-2007, 16:24 Post: 145291
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Pete, you must be on your new tractor. How is it working? You're starting to like it right.






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 09-02-2007, 18:29 Post: 145297
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I will agree with most others here, a SCUT (sub-compact utility tractor) is not a toy. Used properly, it will get an amazing amount of work done that sure beats being on the business end of shovel.

Sure, bigger machines do bigger things faster, but that's when one spends money foolishly...too much money spent on equipment over-powered for the job. See it all the time from boats to big pickups to guns to .....well you get the picture!

Value and perspective are always a judgement call and it usually comes down to your own that counts...enjoy your SCUT and the wise investment you made....I know I sure do!

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