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 08-08-2000, 07:42 Post: 18615
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 Did anyone get thier JD loader safety upgrade kit?

I got mine last night by UPS. It seems like a pain in the butt. It is easy to install, but it seems like it is going to rattle, wear off paint and just be a pain. I will have to get off the tractor to release the lock, get back on the tractor to lift the wheels, unlatch the front plate and remove the loader, get back off to undo the hoses, and put the retainer in its locked storage position.I think that I will keep it in the box, for when and if I sell my tractor, so the next guy can do the same thing! I think I will just inspect the front plate more often to make sure the fit is per the owners manual.I would perfer to drill a hole through the catch plate on the loader, through the front mounting plate on the tractor and have a pin of the appropiate length with cotterpin, that would keep the plate from coming out. In my book, easy fix! And much less expensive than that ugly thing that arrived last night. I can see engineers spending many long nights in designing that part, just so no drilling would be required, when drilling a hole was the best option.






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 08-08-2000, 10:00 Post: 18621
Shawn in OK



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 Did anyone get thier JD loader safety upgrade kit?

Craig,
I have never heard of the safety kit you're talking about. However, on my 4200 w/ 420 loader, the first week I had it I was pulling fence posts and the loader fell off, very nearly injuring my Dad. After re-installing the loader (a real trick when on uneven, muddy ground) I noticed the engagement mechanism was not even close to being adjusted correctly. I adjusted it, and contacted my dealer, telling him I wanted a fix. On the 4200/420 there are pre-drilled holes on the front mounting plate of the tractor and loader. The dealer supplied 2 pins, washers, and pins. There's no way the loader will come off with this very simple fix. Is your setup different?






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 08-08-2000, 18:17 Post: 18635
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 Did anyone get thier JD loader safety upgrade kit?

My loader safety latch came Aug.1st united parcel, took about 1 minute to install. I read some place that if you keep the linkage adjusted properly there is less chance of it coming off. The little two finger like claw latch will be a slight pain but cheap and easy insurance, I do and will always use it. I will still keep my linkage adjusted as manual says but I don't even want to think about or worry about having a full bucket of anything and have that loader come off while I'm moving. My third SCV handle is very flimsy in the warm season but ok when it gets cooler, I work it by putting more of my hand on the metal part of the handle but I'm sure it's just a matter of time before it comes off. The older tractors 4020s and so on have a much stiffer type of rubber used on the levers I never had one of those come off or get loose. I think I was told that the third and fourth SCVs are after market items, it's sold by Deere but made by someone else. Terry I agree with you on a better hydraulic set up and the swivel seat, I would gladly pay a couple of hundred $ more for the hydraulic system like they put on the 5000 series tractors rather than the cheap cable set up on my 4600. I would up grade to a swivel seat in a heart beat. Getting my new axle installed today and some other things done, looking forward to operating with new axle. budinohio






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 08-08-2000, 22:58 Post: 18654
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 Did anyone get thier JD loader safety upgrade kit?

Craig--I was lead by my dealer to believe that this loader safety kit was for a very limited number of serial numbers. Does anyone know if this is a general issue for most loaders or a limited number of loaders??? Mike S.






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 08-08-2000, 23:02 Post: 18655
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 Did anyone get thier JD loader safety upgrade kit?

Bud, I received my loader upgrage kit yesterday. I guess it makes sense if the loader falls off while in use. Deere's quick tach loader was one of the reasons I orginally purchased the Deere. I guess it is still pretty quick, just not quite as slick as it was. I suspect we'll just get used to it. I used my 4600 with the new axle today for the first extended use since it was installed. I was impressed. I do a custom mowing job that has been taking around 4 hours with the old axle. Today, I trimmed a half of an hour off the job with the new axle. With the old axle you had all of those forward-reverse cycles to mow around and obstacle. Today I was spinning around trees, fire hydrants, fence posts with the ease of my 445 garden tractor. Deere got it right this time. I'm still complaining about the oversensitive hydro pedals but the new axle has changed me from being angry with Deere to only a little disappointed. I still want Deere to make changes with the operator controls (swivel seat, better hydraulic controls, telescoping draft links for the three point). There is still some work to do to catch Newholland but with this new axle the gap is narrowed considerably.






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 08-09-2000, 15:05 Post: 18670
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 Did anyone get thier JD loader safety upgrade kit?

just a note for you disappointment terry. A friend of mine got a tc33d NH. he has never owned a CUT and I helped him take the loader and the mower off for the first time the other day. Let me just say the ergonomics of his trac, are nicer. but the functionality of quick atttachments is a joke. the loader must be perfectly lined up to hookup. the mower is a real pain, must use the loader to push the front off the ground to get the mower out and the height adjustment is hard too. The biggest thing is the power of the NH, it is much underpowered compared to mine. For only 2 HP diff it will not even come close to my JD when pushing the bucket. I was really suprised. It is an excellent mowing machine. and adequate for general use, but I don't think it would hold up as well as my JD's for my purposes.






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 08-09-2000, 16:00 Post: 18672
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yeah, but NH owners don't have to take their tractors in for recalls every 3 months like JD 4000 series owners do. I pitty you JD 4000 series owners. I don't know how you stand it, dupped by JD's past reputation and spending 20K, only to purchase flawed engineering (scuffing, trans hop) and rushed assembly (knobs falling off, mis-adjusted linkages, trans hop etc). An extra 5-10 mins for putting a NH or Kubota implement on over the JD's implement is well worth the better quality tractor.






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 08-09-2000, 19:07 Post: 18681
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 Did anyone get thier JD loader safety upgrade kit?

Please tell me what loaders are affected and how. I have an 870 with 440 loader which probably is OK (I hope) but am still curious. Thanks Greg






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 08-09-2000, 21:44 Post: 18683
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 Did anyone get thier JD loader safety upgrade kit?

Greg, the latch retainer update does refer to the 870 but only with the 420 and 430 loaders. There is no mention of the 870 with the 440 loader. In fact there is no mention of the 440 loader throughout the manual so I think you are safe. I have a 410 loader on the 4100 so I installed the retainer. It does detract from the ease of use and I may remove it since I have never had a problem. Besides I am not very impressed with the design. It is loose and clunky and the spacer shape is a never ending source of wonder. It does provide the proper spacing but it is an inverted "L" shape that appears to have no function aside from providing the proper spacing. It constantly bangs against the paint job. Why didn't JD just provide an ordinary washer that provided the proper spacing instead of the weird looking "L" shaped piece of metal that is the proper thickness? If anyone has an answer I would sure like to hear it.






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 08-09-2000, 21:49 Post: 18685
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 Did anyone get thier JD loader safety upgrade kit?

Greg the information sheet that came with the safety lock says that it applies to the 410, 420, 430 & 460 loaders.

Chris






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