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Yeah I looked at the new model too. But my old 420 will have to do. Can't swing the almost 20K for one as much as I would like. I may make some improvements to mine based on what they did like raising the foot plate. I've seen a new one or two out and about already so someone must have had some extra cash. I didn't quite like all it's looks. Remminds me a bit of the 410/415. I think maybe it's the hood.

New Steiner 440 Model Review
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Replies 3 Post by neberly

thanks for the compliments Eddie. I have found John at Mast Lepley has more current knowledge than I. I even go to him with questions. He is more up to date on the newer Steiners than I am.

Mast Lepley in my opinion is one of the premium dealers in the Steiner net work past and present. Hope they keep it up.

Steiner 430max belt problems
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what a great way to say thank you

Saying I love you
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I was trained and certified in preparing and documenting dangerous goods for air transport. Asking him to knowingly conceal, improperly package and mislabel the package is considered a criminal offense subject to fines for each offense. In this case it would be 3 fines up to $10,000 US and possible jail time as well. Any internal combustion engine is considered dangereous goods for transport and must be packaged, marked, labeled and documented as such.
It can be done but there are hoops to jump through. You cannot empty the fuel out and vent the tank to get around the proper shipment. We air shipped internal combustion engines new from the factory and they had to be shipped as dangerous goods as well.

My guess is that some of the cost of getting chainsaws to Australia is built into the final price since it is so difficult to ship.

My certification lapsed and I don't need it now. However since the attacks on US soil I don't think shipping will ever be easy any more and it wasn't before

Sorry about the expensive lesson but such is life in this world.

Shipping a chain saw
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Replies 17 Post by neberly

Good news: The 230 was just re-introduced to production this past spring. Evidently the felt there was a market for it and brought it back.

steiner 230 now discontinued
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Replies 5 Post by neberly

Wayne & Roger. I'll be happy to answer any questions I can.
I worked there for 23 years before they closed the Dalton division.

I still have copies of some of my old manuals so I should be able come up with at least some of the answers and if not I have contacts that should be able to get the answers that I don't know.

So Fire away. I will try to check in periodically. There are 2 guys from the old company still working for the new company but they might not want me throwing their e-mail on here

Neal

Steiiner History Buffs
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Replies 6 Post by neberly

You guessed it right. The BS would stand for Briggs & Stratton engine. Sorry it took so long for me to see your post. I used to work at Steiner Turf for 23 years until the Dalton divison was closed.

When they changed to the model 430 they just used a sequential number so there was no way to tell when it was built.

Neal

Steiner Serial Number Meaning
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Eddie: I will pop in again. I used to be able to get on at work but somehow I got a bad virus on my terminal and IT had to wipe my hard drive clean. I asked to be blocked from the internet except for what I need. Everything else is blocked at my request. We're not supposed to be on forums anyway. So now I have to work off of dialup at home and there is only so much time to do things it seems.

Neal

STEINER TURF OWNERS
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Replies 3 Post by neberly

Rick; Did you ever find a blade for your Steiner. Not sure you are going to find a good used one out there.

However, you might try Nelson Ramer down at Nappanee IN.
He used to be a Steiner dealer and had access to some used Steiner Equipment sometimes. His phone 574-831-6855 and tell him Neal gave you his name. He may no longer be a dealer in lawn & garden equipment. Have not talked with him for quite a few years since I have not be involved with Steiner Turf Equipment or it's succeeding owners

If he doesn't have anything you may want to go on line and see if there are any other dealers within reasonable distance. Just enter www.SteinerTurf.com and you will be at the current owners website. (Schiller Grounds Care)

The only other option is to watch E-Bay and you may occasionly find something there

I still believe Steiner is one of the best pieces of equipment built. My 1986 is still going strong with over 3,000 hours on the engine with only 1 overhaul and I bought it used.

Best of luck

Needed Steiner 430 max blade
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Replies 3 Post by neberly

Eddie: I'm still around and check in occassionally also just to see what is happening. I have not heard much, just enough to understand they are struggling just like most companies are today.

I know we went through a layoff at the company I work for around the first of the year and have not picked up much since. The fabrication work is just not happening. My hours have actually been cut to where I work 4 day work weeks. I'm not bored but it doesn't help the paycheck much that's for sure.

Hope you are doing fine. I sure would like to have a Steiner Snowblower but the $$ aren't there at this time. Have to keep working on the mortgage and taxes so I can keep my place. :)

Any Steiner owners read this board anymore
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Replies 7 Post by neberly

still here Eddie. Read the forums regularly but don't always log on. No questions or discussions I wanted to contribute to.

PM me your mailing address at neberly1@aol.com sometime. I found some odds and ends of memorabilia that you may like. Nothing fancy or expensive but hey it's free. Most has the old address on yet.

Steiner Question
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Replies 21 Post by neberly

I have used the Ventrac one several years ago and didn't like it. It is out in front of the machine and you can't see what is happening. There is supposed to be a mirror but there wasn't one on the rental unit I was using

The Steiner stump grinder is off center and much easier to see exactly what is happening.

ventrac stump grinder
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Replies 2 Post by neberly

DBacon. No that was my first cousin Nelson. He deals in used equipment although not Steiner any more. Watch your papers for private sales and auctions. Also you may want to contact some of the dealers. Industrial Vehicle over in Pontiac might have some trade ins.

Not sure what horsepower engine the Subaru is but you want to be careful not to have too much horsepower. You could do some damage to the drive line. I am not really technical but if the rpms are about the same you might be fine. I do know we put 27 Hp Kohlers in now and the Kubota 1105 series in the bigger units but still the same pump motor and axle configuration.

steiner shutdown
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Replies 3 Post by neberly

let me give you the story line we as employees were told.
Economic necessity means they will be closing the Dalton Oh facility June 30, 2003. The product will be built in Johnson Creek Wisconsin. That is the same plant the Ransomes Bob Cat line is built in. About 120 of us will be looking for new employment over the next year. Not sure what all else underlies the whole move. The transition team is in place and individuals from that plant are here on a weekly basis to learn the assembly process etc. Will watch the board for questions and try to keep you informed of new information as we learn of it.

Steiner is shutting down at dalton Location
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Replies 2 Post by neberly

The auxiliary option does not have enough flow to operate an attachment like a log splitter. That is why you see the loader, auger and reel mowers with their own hydraulic pump.
Figure out how to attach a pump to the front pulley and use that to operate the splitter. Many Steiner dealers and owners have done just that and come up with their own attachments. Generators, power washers etc. Good luck

Log splitter for Steiner or Ventrac
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Replies 2 Post by neberly