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 | Matt W>
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2002-07-19 40518
Rented a 4 ft landscape rake to use w/ Ford 1310. Boy am I having difficulty!!! This is the first time I've use a rake and I'm disappointed. Does anyone have any pearls of wisdom to decrease my frustration?? It is a landpride 4 hter. I sit too light? what about angle, how much should I be using?? I'm raking new dirt, 32 tandem loads worth, that has a lot of small stone (golf ball size) and am overwhelmed by the # of stones left behind. What can I do to remove stones so I can seed ?? HELP !!!! Thank You all, your great.
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| TomG
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5406 Upper Ottawa Valley 
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2002-07-20 40531
Never used a rake myself. A box scraper works well enough for my work, all of which is much smaller than 32 tandem loads. My impression is that rakes make it easier to do final spreading and smoothing that a box blade. Drags are still used for final surfacing.
My best guess is that if the rake is carrying some rocks and then the 3ph sometimes floats over them, then adding some weight on top of the rake or lengthening the top-link might help. I can't think of any help if the rocks are going between the tines. In that case, I might try to drag them out. A couple of timbers with chain-link fence between makes a good drag. Some people simply wrap chain-link around a timber or just use a timber.
I sort of had the opposite problem a few weeks back. I was compacting new gravel--sometimes back-dragging with the bottom of my loader bucket and down-pressure and other times with the back of the rear cutter on my box scraper. With this particular load of gravel, both the loader and box scraper tended to pick up the small stone on the surface rather than pressing it into the sand as I wanted. Who knows, either of those two things might work for you to get small stone out. However, they would leave compacted ground that would have to be tilled before planting.
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 | Peters
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 3034 Northern AL
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2002-07-20 40532
I recently tailored and planted the fill in my front and back areas around my new house.
I borrowed a borrowed a friends box blade and levelled the area first and adjusted the grade. Then used the disked and harrowed the area to break up compaction. After I was finished I used the rack to remove the surface rock and sticks etc.
I don't think you need to remove the rocks from all 48 loads unless you are spreading it only a few inches deep.
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 | Art White
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 6898 Waterville New York
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2002-07-20 40535
For your problem Tom did a good job talking about the weight of the unit and what you can pull for load with a york rake. Try woring out smaller areas that you can pull and not dump your load of stones. ....
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| Matt W>
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2002-07-20 40537
Played w/ rake some more today. Added 2 cement blocks for weight and used less down pressure from the 3pt hitch. This seemed to work much better. I do not have any chain link lying around but I do have an old double bed box spring. Could I add the same cement blocks or timbers and have any luck removing stones?? Thank you all for your help, you guys are real helpful. ....
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| TomG
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5406 Upper Ottawa Valley
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2002-07-21 40547
Glad things are working better. I think most box springs have wood frames that are screwed together. I'm not sure these frames would stand up to dragging. However, within general safety principals, there aren't any rights and wrongs to tractor techniques. Everybody finds how do things that work for them and maybe not so well for anybody else. I'd give it a try and see what happens.
You're probably aware that few 3ph's actually have down-pressure. 'Decreasing the down-pressure' probably is raising the position control to decrease the float. Decreased float limits how well the 3ph can follow the ground contour. It it's decreased too much, then the rake would lift and dump its load every time the tractor front wheels go over a hill or into a dip. Maybe that's what happening and why it seems to work better. Art did mention that dumping the rocks frequently might work better.
There haven't been rocks in any topsoil I've gotten. I'd also keep in mind Peters comment that some rock may not be a problem if several inches of topsoil are going to be spread later.
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| Matt W>
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2002-07-21 40555
TomG, I think I gave you some miss information. The box spring that I was referring was my grandparents when they got married. It is probably 70-80 years old, I used it myself for most of 25 years. It is all metal and all there, if you know what I mean. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Do you think it might work as described? ....
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| Glenn-D
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 54 Westmont, Illinois, summer home in Mountain Home Ar.
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2003-05-01 54127
If you drag an old bedspring around you may want to put on a helmet first. I dragged one behind my riding mower several years ago and it did a good job but I am serious about wearing a heavy jacket and helmet. The thing will propel sizeable rocks at ya. I found a section of chain link fence with a couple of t-posts weaved in works better and is safer. Glenn ....
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