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 04-23-2017, 10:25 Post: 196554
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On the P21f w/ elect. over hyd., one of the solenoids that lowers the lower arms is shot. Was thinking of finding a diff. setup, so i can just use a lever instead of using joystick. Would like to know if anyone has done this using a ford type hyd. valve or not? If so, which models to look at. 1310,1710 or ? Thanx for any help or suggestions. Jim






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 04-23-2017, 22:05 Post: 196556
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The Fords are different. If you can figure out which passages under the solenoid are supply & feed passages, then you could make a plate w/threaded opening to go to an external valve.






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 04-24-2017, 09:38 Post: 196560
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I guess i am a little slow this morning. And don't exactly know what your talking about, are you saying to bypass solenoid? And go str8 to line that it feeds or? Also i can't figure out how to add pix by url, i do know that the solenoid that is on the front (facing engine) is the one that isn't relieving the press. to let 3pt. down. I believe we have talked on the phone, This is the tractor from the guy in Harrison, Ar. had, that i had bought. I could email you a pic, and maybe go from there?? Thank You Jim






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 04-24-2017, 10:50 Post: 196562
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By looking at Parts manual, i think part #34029 3245(solenoid valve) is the one i need? Also, page 1-165 #23 is a relief valve. Can i turn this to lower arms after removing the acorn nut (lock nut/ slotted screw). I see that page 1-165, item #12 what does this do, as far as hyd. valve? Thank You for your time. Jim





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 06-20-2017, 06:54 Post: 196755
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I also have a P21F here in Australia and the down solenoid is burnt out also. My simple fix was to remove the solenoid cap and push the pin manually to let the 3 point down. If you want will take a photo and send so you can get an idea of what I have done. Has worked perfectly for 3 years now>






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 06-20-2017, 07:43 Post: 196756
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I wouldn't mess with the relief valve. Rubman's way is the simpler fix. Several people have done this. My suggestion was a way to eliminate the electric over hydraulic. You would remove the control valve, determine which passage do what, make a cover block to attach hoses to a control valve.






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 06-22-2017, 08:07 Post: 196764
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Rubman, post pix of what you got, i can use all the visual i can get. I need to fix this , so i can install fel and start using this thing. Wife says fix or sell, Laughing out loud.






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 06-22-2017, 08:48 Post: 196765
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You don't need the 3 point for the loader hydraulics to work properly.






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 06-23-2017, 09:19 Post: 196770
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Yes Sir, i know this. But need a counter balance for fel, is what i was getting at. Sry, for the sound of confusion. Would like to see what Rubman came up with is all.






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 07-01-2017, 23:03 Post: 196792
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