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 03-18-2005, 08:42 Post: 108219
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CNH claims this design is superior giving better visibility and best in class lift height. From my viewpoint, the bucket is soo far ahead of the front tires, it must reduce actual lift capacity by atleast 1/3. From being so far ahead of the front tires, if you are trying to scrape with the bucket it will be unstable and hard to control the height from the short wheelbase of the tractor.

They also say you can see the bucket better. They say you can see it full. I like to scrape snow from my gravel driveway and stand while doing this with my current tractor and can see the snow buildup just ahead of the bucket's front edge. I think that would be totally blind on the CNH.

What do you guys think, that have it or those guys selling them? It doesn't look appealing to me. Am I missing something?






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 03-18-2005, 10:37 Post: 108227
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The loaders on the CK Kioti is the same curved boom design. I kinda liked the looks of them, not having the welded knuckle, but never tried one to see how they feel. Have you checked the specs on the loaders. It seems they matched up pretty well with the knuckled boom designs. The position of the boom cylinders would determine lift capacties at different heights. Counterweight could be an issue, if the bucket is that much farther forward.

All in all, I liked the clean looks of the curved boom






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 03-18-2005, 10:54 Post: 108229
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A farmer down the road from me has one and says it can't lift squat although it is rated high. Being he is a farmer, most complain allot about everything.

I agree the curved beam looks ok, but doesn't seem practical by engineering examination and use. The cylinders look to be about the same. Think I'll measure OD and rod sizes this weekend.

I'm looking at the CaseIH DX33 and JD 4310 or 4410. Red and Green are the colors in my neighborhood and know the dealers very well, neither says they will be undersold. I think the DX35 and 4510's are a little bigger than needed.

Thinking about getting a new tractor. Mine is in great shape and does everything needed, but approaching 10 years old. I'm leaving my mid 50's approaching 60 and think this would be a good time to change so the next one can last about 15 years.

I'm preparing a spreadsheet with specifications with pluses & minuses for my application.






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 03-18-2005, 11:52 Post: 108234
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I have a TZ24DA with the 10LA FEL and the specs are comparable to the JD2210 and Kubota BX2230. The curved boom definitely makes visibility better and is one of the reasons I opted for "blue". I think lifting is as much about technique as it is about brute force. Sometimes I use the FEL to clear the driveway but most of the time I just push snow about 80 - 100 feet and then use the rear-mounted blower to get rid of it. There's no problem pushing heavy snow until it's 3 - 4 feet high!






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They will lift what they are rated for. They are rated with so many pounds of rear ballast and at 75% of tipping load. You will not have a visibility problem while clearing snow though seeing the bucket edge is not in the cards while seated but if you bypass the o.p.s. you could stand and see the edge very clearly. They also have a bucket position indicator that once you get used to which would take only about a minute there is no need to see the edge. The boom is also one solid piece of tubing and no welds to stress.
You have been around for a while so you know just go drive one and find the one that fits you best.






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 03-18-2005, 18:01 Post: 108261
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I had the squared boom 7308 on a previous NH and I have the 16LA on my current one. I agree that visibility is much improved with the new curved boom design. As far as lifting, its lifted everything I've attempted with the bucket. Oftentimes for convenience I'll put the pallet forks from the skidsteer on the loader to move something light and its worked well for that also. Only "issue", if any, is getting used to the bucket sticking out front a little further and the impact that has on tight turns, etc. After using the unit for months now, I've adapted and no longer think about it. Probably would have different problems if I went back to the 7308.






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