back hoe for 4310: John Deere Review  -- John Deere Tractors Discussion Forum and Review back hoe for 4310: John Deere Review -- John Deere Tractors Discussion Forum

  parts   |   manuals   |   discussion   |   photos   |   podcast   |   reviews   |   specs   |   dealers   |   classifieds   |   contact   |   faq   |   myProfile   |   home          Login Now | Sign Up


FAQ:   What is a tractor?

Forum Index

Kubota Tractors
  Kubota News
  Kubota Price
  Kubota Review
John Deere Tractors
  John Deere News
  John Deere Price
  John Deere Review
New Holland Tractors
  New Holland Tractor Price
  New Holland Tractor Revie
Other Tractor Brands
  Articulated Tractors
  Belarus
  Bobcat Tractors
  Case
  Cub Cadet
  Hinomoto
  Kioti Tractor
  Long
  Massey Ferguson
  Mitsubishi
  Other Tractor Brands
  Other Tractor News
  Shibaura
  Yanmar Tractors
Lawn and Garden Tractors
  Craftsman
  Cub Cadet Garden
  John Deere Garden
  Kubota Lawn Garden
  Other Garden Tractors
  Simplicity
  Toro Wheelhorse
  Ventrac Lawn Tractors
Antique Tractors
  Allis Chalmers
  Case David Brown
  Farmall IHC
  Ford
  Ford 9N 2N 8N
  Fordson
  Harry Ferguson
  John Deere Older
  Massey-Harris Ferguson
  Minneapolis Moline
  Oliver Cletrac Cockshutt
  Restoration
  Tractor Pulling
Tractor Attachments Implements 3ph
  Back Hoe
  Field Mowers Brush Cutter
  Grooming Mowers Finish Mo
  Loaders
  Snowblowers / Snow Plows
  Tillers and Ploughs
  Tractor Implements
  Trenchers
  Wood Chippers 3PH
Tractor Maintenance
  Diesel Fuel Lubrication E
  Tractor Engine Repair Reb
  Tractor Tires
Utility ATV
  All Terrain Vehicles
  John Deere Gator
  Mule Utility Vehicles
General Tractor
  Farming Ranching Agricult
  Photo Contest
  Size Tractor Needed
  Tractor Projects
  Tractor Safety
  Welding
Chinese Tractors
  Jinma Farmpro Agracat
  NorTrac Tractors
  Other Chinese Tractors
Cars
  All Brands
  Audi VW
  BMW
  Car Tires and Maintenance
  Chrysler
  Exotic, Sports, Racing
  Ford Cars
  General Motors
  Honda
  Hyundai
  Mercedes
  News
  Nissan
  Subaru
  SUV and Trucks
  Toyota Cars
Trucks Trailers
  Chevy Pickup Trucks
  Dodge Pickup Trucks
  Ford Pickup Trucks
  Toyota Pickup Trucks
  Chevy Pickup Trucks
  Dodge Pickup Trucks
  Ford Pickup Trucks
  Toyota Pickup Trucks
Home Building
  Alternate Electric Energy
  Barns Pole Barns
  Buying Ranch Farm Acreage
  Carpentry
  Contractors
  Electric
  Excavation
  Moldings Finish Trim
  Other Home Building
  Pellet Stoves
  Plumbing
  Wood Stoves
Tools
  Electirc Power Tools
  Gas Power Tools
  Generators
  Shop Tools
  Techniques Howto
Landscape
  Flowers Shrubs Garden
  Golf Course Maintenance
  Irrigation Systems
  Landscape Design
  Landscape Lighting
  Landscape Maintenance
  Lawn, Turf, and Grass
  Vegetable Gardening
Construction
  Caterpillar
  Komatsu
  Wheel Loaders
Current Events Health Happiness
  Current Events
  Dogs and other Pets
  Electronics And Computers
  Food
  Health
  Just For Fun Off Topic
  Movies Music Games
  Personal Finance Investme
  Sports Outdoors
Tractorpoint Site
  Member Photos
  Site Members
  Website Operations Howto


New As Posted | Active Subjects



Click to Post a New Message!

Discussion Boards > Active Subjects > Messages as Posted > John Deere Review Forum

Page [ 1 ] |
Reply | Pop Up Window Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo
 08-24-2003, 08:31 Post: 62579
johnwolfe.
2003-08-24 08:31:38
Post: 62579
 back hoe for 4310

does anyone know of an alternative to the jd back hoes,something a bit more inexpensive? i cant really afford one if they are 5-7 grand.i guess i would have to just hire out that type of work. but it sure would come in handy and im sure i could find more uses for it than i imagine.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 08-25-2003, 05:36 Post: 62632
TomG

TP Contributor

Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Upper Ottawa Valley
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 5406

2
Filter by User
 back hoe for 4310

Woods and Bradco are names that come to mind. There are others, and there was an Italian manufactured hoe discussed here awhile back that has a pretty good price. There are names like Kelly that make moderate priced hoes but the question for any after-market manufacturer is if a sub-frame is available for the tractor. 3ph hoes cost less but are more stressful on the tractor and serious damage from them has been discussed.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 08-25-2003, 16:43 Post: 62662
harvey



View my Photos

View my Photos  Pics
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Moravia, NY
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1529

3
Filter by User
 back hoe for 4310

John I've mulled this question over most of today after reading it last night.

My thoughts are yes there are a lot of lower prices hoes avaiable. I just saw a used Arps 3ph for sale $2000.

I used a Arps, model 28? It attached to the 3ph and I chained it down at the drawbar. It was all over the back of the tractor and I had several rather sudden jolts when there was a good solid load and a root broke and the whole thing bouncded into the air and came down solid. I became very concerned about the tractor mounting points and the castings. As TomG said there are several treads about this.

I could not justify the cost of replacing an entire casting. Let alone how long tractor would be down waiting for parts. I looked at commercial backhoes (USED) in the range of $4000-$8000 all needed a lot of work and hyd hoses and oil get expensive fast.

I bit the bullet took all of the kids milk money plus a little I had stached and went dealing at JD for a 48. Actually ended up finiancing 100% thru a special rate.

It was one of the best decisions I have made. It goes on and off easy, it is a rock solid hook up, I have no worries about breaking tractor castings.

Bottom line: you may spend a little more up front now but you will have a solid piece of equipment that will hold its value. In 10 years you trade both and you will probably get your entire investment back plus you used it for 10 years.

PS this is an edit: I tried to get a hoe to come in for a couple hours of work. Good thing I did not hold my breath waiting. Most want all day work or trucking fees...






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 08-25-2003, 17:11 Post: 62663
JOHNWOLFE.



Join Date:
Location:
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1
 back hoe for 4310

THANKS GUYS,I GUESS ILL HAVE TO JUST START SAVING MY MONEY BUT ITS GOING TO TAKE A WHILE!!! A LOT OF UNEXPECTED BREAK DOWNS HAVE HAPPENED LATELY SO MONEY IS AGAIN AT A PREMIUM.GOOD THING I CAN WRENCH!!






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 08-25-2003, 18:51 Post: 62671
harvey



View my Photos

View my Photos  Pics
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Moravia, NY
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1529

3
Filter by User
 back hoe for 4310

John nothing wrong with wrenching. For many years it was the only way I kept my stuff running. I still know how and have all the tools I'm smart enough to use. YEA YEA YEA I know 1 hammer and a screwdriver for prying and chiesling...

I still do all the work except the electronics and I HATE exaust work.

I really think you will like the JD once you figure out how the steal the kids lunch and milk money, school clothes, dental...

Harvey






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 08-26-2003, 01:14 Post: 62693
JOHNWOLFE.



Join Date:
Location:
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1
 back hoe for 4310

i was afraid of the new cars my self with all the computers and sensors and what not,but after having no alternative i dived into them and if you have a dealers shop manuel they arent too bad. i was surprised by how detailed the info in a good shop book was. nothing at all like a chiltons or hayes,those books are fairly useless. keep on wrenchin harv,its a hell of lot cheaper!! JW






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 08-26-2003, 03:06 Post: 62694
harvey



View my Photos

View my Photos  Pics
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Moravia, NY
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1529

3
Filter by User
 back hoe for 4310

John The shop manuals are the first thing I get as I sign the contracts.

The shop manuals along with the detailed parts book showed me all I needed, (plus I picked a couple of mechanics brains) to change the valving around on the 48 hoe to suit me. (See dipper cylinder).

I still do all the brake work and the cars are new enough not to need major repair. Only my old Farmall requires lots of heavy repair and I work at that a little at a time during the winter.

I do most of the maintenence of our live bottm & dump fleet at work during the off season. The main shop does all of the drive line and brake work.

Greasy finger nails are a good thing...






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 08-26-2003, 07:08 Post: 62704
TomG

TP Contributor

Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Upper Ottawa Valley
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 5406

2
Filter by User
 back hoe for 4310

And don't forget the busted knuckles and contortionist acts, but I don't think I'd call them 'good.' Oh that exhaust work.

I can't say what a help a parts manual is. The exploded parts diagrams give the location and proper assembly of every bolt, nut and washer on a tractor. I wonder how many times I've finished a job and 'OOPS there's something still in the parts pail. Yikes, now where'd that come from!' At least with a parts manual you can figure it out.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
Reply | Pop Up Window Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo


Page [ 1 ] |

Discussion Boards > Active Subjects > Messages as Posted > John Deere Review Forum

Thread 62579 Filter by Poster:
harvey 3 | johnwolfe. 3 | TomG 2 |

 (advanced search)

Picture of the Day
Coachlarry

John Deere Gator - 1200A Bunker Rake Shudder under load
1200A Bunker Rake Shudder under load


Unanswered Questions

Belarus 825 - needs a new clut
Drain Cock
Need more hydraulic flow for s
HINOMOTO HB 501
Belarus 420A - Problems bleed

Active Subjects

460 Long hyd leak
460 axle
Key will not start engine
6x4 engine rebuild vsHarbor Fr
Things we say and what do they
The Plus and Minus of Ignoring
Looking to buy a New Pickup Tr
Need more hydraulic flow for s


Hot Topics

Tractor Category 1 2 3 Hitch s
Duerr hp 678 Chipper replaceme
Gator 620i gas in engine oil
KUBOTA Tractor Trouble Free Qu
Gator 6x4 Overheating problem
Duerr hp 678 Chipper Manual
Adjusting 7308 Pressure Relief
Long 460 hydraulic problem


Featured Suppliers

Mountain Creek Labradoodles
      MountainCreekLabradoodles.com





New Forums on Gun Sport Shooting and Hunting -- BarrelPoint.com  New Forums on Horses ManePoint.com
Talk Horses at ManePoint
Hunting + Gun Sports at BarrelPoint



Most Viewed

+ John Deere 2210 Backhoe Review
+ John Deere vs Kubota Compact Tractors
+ John Deere 790 fuel shut-off solenoid failing
+ John Deere low viscosity HY GARD
+ John Deere JD 4100 Wiring diagram
+ JD 790 or Kubota L3000DT
+ Should I buy a John Deere 4105
+ John Deere 4300 turns over but won t start
+ John Deere 455 garden tractor
+ Oil Change for Diesel Tractor

Most Discussion

+ John Deere 4300 scuffing
+ Possible Solution To The 4000
+ Dealer out to lunch
+ Just got my new JD 4410 - Prob
+ Hello Green Goodbye Orange
+ Receiver hitch for iMatch
+ 4300 wheel bolt problems
+ 4000 Ten Series 50 hour break
+ Don t buy JD compact tractors
+ Oil Change for Diesel Tractor

Newest Topics

+ Oil overflow from tube and Smoke
+ John Deere 4100 gear 3 point not workin
+ 2000 John Deer Gator 4 X2
+ Mini Excavator SY20C - Small Body with Big Power
+ John Deer 1070 starting problem
+ John Deere 990
+ Tractors R Us
+ john deere 4100 with 410 loader hydraulic problem
+ John Deere 2032R Buying advice
+ John Deere 2010 loss of hydraulics
















Turbochargers for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Cab Glass for Tractors and Industrial Machines

Alternators for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Radiators for Tractors and Industrial Machines

Driveline Components for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Starter Motors for Tractors and Industrial Machines